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This set is of course designed for Elemental Shaman, but it can also be pretty decent for healing as well. The sockets provide a great degree of flexability. You will also notice that there is a fairly good amount of MP/5 on many of these pieces. I believe this set was designed to support the idea of shamans casting lightning bolt for DPS, and having enough mana and regen to be able to do so for an extended period of time. The two piece bonus provides a fairly significant buff to the secondary and tertiary hits on chain lightning., but the 5 piece bonus is pretty weak.

There is also a different, more pvp oriented set of gear (Worldfire Chestguard, Mask of Inner Fire, etc) with more spellcrit and less mana regen.

Being all lvl 115 items these are only a small step below many of the lower tier epic items available.

Комментарий от 18724

Set bonuses are pretty horrible.
Even an elemental shaman isn't going to be casting the mana hungry Chain Lightning very often in PVE and in PVP the benefit of CL is it's high damage and low cast time, the fact that it hits multiple targets is a distant third.

I don't think anyone needs to have the awfulness of the 4 piece bonus explained.

Compare the set bonuses to the ones on Desolation Battlegear to see what good set bonuses that really compliment the spec intended to wear the gear can look like.

Комментарий от Detton

The individual pieces aren't too bad, though. The 2-piece set bonus isn't completely wasted. Chances are, if you're working towards this set, at least a few pieces will be an upgrade for you. :)

Still would've preferred better set bonuses, but the parts will last me until I can get something better.

Комментарий от 23009

What set should an enhancement Shaman pursue?

Комментарий от Keruza

The 2 part bonus on this set is rather decent and ok (playing Elemental/Resto specced). But the 4 part bonus is a bit... Me no like :(

But maybe just me who don't spam Water Shield 24/7

But it's an overall good set which I'm aiming to get full in (pretty nice and it's cool to have full sets, even if they are non-epic dungeon ones)

Комментарий от Meshara

Hey, I've been Elemental Spec from 10 to 70 and these are pretty nice. One I got Water Shield, I never used Lightning Shield again. It gives me around 130-140 mana right now and I have the Totem of the Thunderhead . With this set, It'll give me tons more mana when hit. I even usually reload it when all 3 orbs are gone and i'm still in battle. I find it very useful so this set is perfect. Plus, I use my Chain Lightning alot when questing and rep grinding.

Комментарий от DarianTruBlade

The Tidefury set may look subpar due to the lack of spell crit and iffy set bonuses. However, I did some math comparing the set to some similar items and found that it is very decent.

If you want equally strong items with slightly different statistics, consider the following items.

Helm: Shamanistic Helm of Second Sight - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31107
-21 Int, +24 Spell Crit, +3 Spell Damage

Shoulders: n/a
The Tidefury Shoulderguards do not have any PvE peers before heroics. They are simply the best you can get.

Chest: Worldfire Chestguard - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28391
+7 Int, +10 Spell Crit, -1 Spell Damage, -5 mp5, -10 Spell Hit

Gloves: Earth Mantle Handwraps - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27793
-5 Int, +25 Spell Crit, -6 Spell Damage, -7 mp5

Legs: Area 52 Defender's Pants - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30019
-7 Int, +2 Spell Crit, +1 Spell Damage, +6mp5

I used green gems for the sockets, most notably the +6 spell crit (Yellow), +3 spell crit +4 spell damage (orange) and +1 mp5 +3 Int (green) gems. For the Meta gem I assumed an Insightful Earthstorm Diamond. The listed stats are relative to the Tidefury piece they would replace.

Комментарий от 47860

Only think that is wrong with this set is that it has mana/5 instead of spell crit.

If those m/5 were spell crit, this set would be fantastic.

(Still good though, having 2 pieces can make a big diff)

Комментарий от 54449

Gratz to Blizz on further gimping the 4 set bonus in patch 2.3 making it one of the weakest bonuses of any equivalent set. 60 extra mana per water shield makes this pointless for anything other than bg's, and even then a very minor bonus. Only the 2 set bonus can be considered worthwhile considering the quality of other items

Комментарий от 105332

And the four piece gets stomped into the ground once again by the new reworking of water shield.

3 mp5 is hardly comparable to what it used to give.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Oh yeah, that thing looks wicked!

Комментарий от Thottbot

that set is very nice for my elemental shammy
the +spell dmg is low for a lvl 70 set but with sockets that can be change to better anyway all the shaman sets are hydric like shaman

Комментарий от Thottbot

so would it be better for an ele shaman to go with this set or the lvl 70 hwl pvp set?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Great set for the casual player that likes to PvE with a little PvP on the side.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Chestpiece: Arcatraz - Harbinger Skyriss
Gloves: The Steamvault - Warlord Kalithresh
Helm: The Botanica - Warp Splinter
Legs: Shadow Labyrinth - Murmur
Shoulders: The Shattered Halls - Warbringer O'mrogg

Комментарий от Thottbot

You know, the four-piece bonus on this thing isn't exquisite... Yeah, perhaps you can use Water Shield and get convenient mana, but...

An approximate spell crit chance percentage of a properly geared/equipped elemental shaman can reach up to thirty percent. That means almost one-fourth of your spells are free.

You probably (with talents and equipment) get anywhere from thirty to fifty mana per five seconds. Twenty mana on a water shield proc isn't necessarily exquisite.

If someone was in my face smashing me over and over, I wouldn't use water shield and waste the one second cooldown on a mana gain unless it were absolutely necessary. I'd go lightning shield to kill them faster.

Комментарий от Thottbot

the 20 mana proc is most likely meant for resto shammies who are main healers in a group. This would serve to give the Shaman a little extra help should a pull go bad or the tank loose aggro and and the shaman takes a hit. Thats the whole reason i always put on mana shield when im main healing.

Комментарий от Thottbot

depends... only way water shield procs is when attacked. getting attacked in heroics or kara isn't exactly something I try to do while mainhealing.

The (4) set bonus does however help a bit in farming. I rarely need to drink up while aggressively farming.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You should be wearing MUCH better healing gear than this (more +healing, more MP5). There's lots of good stuff out there. Tidefury is clearly intended for elemental specs. So yeah, I agree that the 4-piece set bonus is pretty weak.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Is there any Belt Bracers and Boots that match this set at all?

All input will be greatly appricated

Комментарий от Thottbot

nope no bracers or belt or boots.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'll tell ya what is weak....This is the best a 70 shammy can hope for in RESTO form until he can get purples.....And it blows for resto....This comment is in reference to set bonus.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Mana-shield IS quite useful in alot of situation. If you're farming then it's an excellent choice even over lightning (Ok, lightning proccs abit damage, good too!) but water shield will let you recc less! And 20 is quite useful really.

Great set. No heroics involved? Pretty decent indeed.

Комментарий от Thottbot

im a resto shaman and this gear blows for my spec, the only epics i have a a few BG epics and nonetheless i have over 1400 bonus healing and i main heal heroics and kara with my guild all the time. its really not even that great for elemental but it would be a good thing to start with untill you can get better gear...

Комментарий от Thottbot

I agree man. PvP level 70 gear is much better!

Комментарий от Thottbot

would this gear be any good for an arcane hunter :)
saw in a youtube vid, an arcane hunter with 1142 spell dmg, dealing 4-5k with arcane shot :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs2Y78XjZB0

would it be worth the hassle going SV, Shadowlabs, alch, mech and bot to get this gear, dealing amzing dmg, with arc shot but crappy normal dmg?

btw id run it with my guild m8s, with no shammys to complane bout stealing there loot :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

The basics: This is the dungeon tier Outland elemental shaman set. However, it's really not much use for elemental shamans OR restoration shamans.

Elemental shamans: Your main focus should be on spell crits. The ONLY piece of this set that adds spell critical rating is the kilt, which is actually pretty decent. To get the two piece set bonus, I'd recommend you get the chestpiece as a second piece, since you can put jewels in it to give it +spell crit. I wouldn't bother with any pieces beyond that, since you can get armor with better spell crit stats. The four-piece set bonus is hardly worth trading all your crit chance.

Restoration shamans: Your main focus should be on +healing, with a secondary focus on +mana/5. This set isn't great for that either, with just 151 +damage/healing. I'd recommend skipping the set completely and getting blues that have stats that're more appropriate to you.

Enhancement shamans: Haha.

Essentially, this is the game's most useless set, one that's not much good to the class it's meant for no matter what their talent spec.

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