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Wow, these are great stats and bonuses, especially with the sockets and the ability to add in more stats and bonuses from the item slots this set doesn't have. All in all, I'm very impressed, especially with the armor contribution. They've found a great way to balance the effects of stats in bear and in cat.

Комментарий от Dermody

Wait...so if you shift out of Bear or Cat, Regrowth will be INSTANT?!

Комментарий от Rishadan

New Nordrassil stats in patch 2.1.0:

http://nihilum.co.uk/image/1676/

Комментарий от 15262

Here is my comparison between the T4 and T5 set for tanking. This is the total for the entire set, in bear form, assuming thick hide:

Tier 4 Armor: 16359
Tier 5 Armor: 16696
This takes into account the agility on each set, and also the tier 4 bonus of 1400 armor. Tier 5 wins on armor.

Tier 4 Agility: 126
Tier 5 Agility: 161
With Blessing of Kings, the difference in agility is 38.5. That works out to 2.75% more dodge in T5 than in T4. Tier 5 wins on agility and dodge.

Tier 5 also gets you 1 extra red socket. That could be used for 8 dodge rating, 8 agility, or a purple gem that splits dodge or agility with 6 stamina.

Tier 5 also gets you 18 hit rating, which means more aggro generation. You get more strength too, and with Kings that's another 60 attack power, which again helps with aggro.

As far as set bonuses go, the 1400 armor tier 4 bonus is negated by the higher base armor of the tier 5. The regrowth bonus of tier 5 is uselss in a main tanking situation, but I think we all appreciate the solo PvE, or PvP applications of that bonus.

The 4% chance of 10 rage of the tier 4 bonus was nice, though in a main tanking situation, you are very rarely short of rage.

The lacerate bonus of tier 5 is a difficult one to judge. Wowead's details of the bonus lead me to believe that it's spread out evenly over the DoT tick of lacerate. If that is the case, it is a useless bonus. They recently changed lacerate so almost all the aggro comes from the direct damage portion of lacerate and the innate threat of the move. Only 20% of the DoT damage is converted to threat.

The tier 5 lacerate bonus was added to the set long before they changed lacerate to the way it is now. As it stands, the set bonus appears useless, but I think it's a reasonable to think that Blizzard will one day look into making it more useful.

Overall, I think the tier 5 is the superior tanking set by a pretty wide margin. The only thing you lose is a 4% chance for 10 extra rage, which I don't feel is a big deal in almost all raid tanking situations.

Комментарий от 59123

Currently, the 4 piece Nordrassil bear bonus is very weak. It is equivalent to the effect of equipping the Idol of Ursoc.

+3 damage per stack for a grand total of +15 more per full stack tick of Lacerate.

Please replace this with something useful, Blizzard!

Комментарий от 70486

This is simply the best set there is for feral droods... The 1% or maybe even 5% more dps from tier 6 is nothing compared to the about 15% in bear and 25% in cat of your hp healed when you shapeshift out. And the ability is reusable when ever u shapeshift out of your form. Until you run out of mana ofc... but that is when innervate steps in :D... This is the best PvP set for druids...

Комментарий от Jommers

As far as tanking goes, I find this more of a side-grade to tier 4 than something worth spending DKP on.

With my current gear I'm already hitting the upper limit of 75% damage reduce so all tier 5 means to me is a slight upgrade stats-wise that isn't dramatic enough to justify burning all my DKP away.

I'm just going to save up for the collossal upgrade that is tier 6, particularly as far as tanking is concerned.

Комментарий от Buuuz

This is the best set in the game! Because 2 pieces bonus really really exited!
(Это очень хороший бонус, т. к. совмещает лечение с ферал формами и 6 сет не катит!)

Комментарий от 127767

All of the analysis done assumes you magically have all of the T5 pieces and just switch gear one day. The reality is that it takes time to get the pieces and the T4 bonus is broken for awhile before we break even on armor or stats. My guild stopped doing Mag almost as soon as we had it on farm. Getting that last piece so I can start switching is difficult. I'm undecided as to whether T5 is really worth it in feral. Maybe I'll get the T5 healing gear if I hit the DKP limit.

Комментарий от LytningStorm

This set is complemented by the staff Pillar of Ferocity (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30883 ) even though the pillar drops in tier six content. Priests, paladins, and warlocks also have weapons in tier six content that complements their tier five sets.

Комментарий от Flyv

The 2 piece set bonus is not useful to bears; there's no way you can afford being exposed without armor for one tiny heal. The 4 piece bonus is only marginally useful too, it doesn't significantly improve your threat. For bears the T4 4 piece bonus is so good that the T5 is only an upgrade once you replace 4 pieces.

The 2 piece set bonus is barely useful for cats, but your +heal is so poor that the heal doesn't make much difference. The 4 piece set bonus is pretty good; not as good as the 2 piece T4 bonus, but all the stats on the items make the T5 worth it.

Overall it's not a very exciting set of armor for a feral druid.

Комментарий от kevinno

You all talk about set bonuses, sockets, armor, and stats yet i never hear anything about how the set looks. IMO Thats one of the most important things to look for in a set. (LOL TIER 5 PALADINS).

I think this set looks awsome compared to druid tier 6.

Комментарий от 59222

For clarification, this is the Feral Druid Tier 5 Raid Set.

Tokens for this set are available from the following bosses:
Chest - Kael'thas Sunstrider (Tempest Keep)
Gloves - Leotheras the Blind (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Helm - Lady Vashj (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Leggings - Fathom Lord Karathress (Serpentshrine Cavern)
Shoulders - Void Reaver (Tempest Keep)

And their respective tokens are;
Vanquished Champion (Rogue, Shaman, Paladin)
Vanquished Defender (Warrior, Priest, Druid)
Vanquished Hero (Warlock, Mage, Hunter)

There are 5 items in this item set.

Комментарий от 168818

Here is the Stat comparison for the entire set when upgrading from the Tier 4 Malorne Harness:
+303 Armor
+27 Strength
+11 Agility
+38 Stamina
+1 Intellect
+18 Hit Rating (Hit Rating not present on Tier 4 Malorne Harness)
+1 Red Socket

The following are the Set Bonus Changes:
Tier 5 2 Piece Bonus: "When you shift out of Bear Form, Dire Bear Form, or Cat Form, your next Regrowth spell takes 2 fewer sec. to cast."
Tier 5 4 Piece Bonus: "Your Shred ability deals an additional 75 damage, and your Lacerate ability does an additional 15 per application."

Tier 4 2 Piece Bonus: "Your melee attacks in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form have a chance to generate 10 additional rage."
Tier 4 2 Piece Bonus: "Your melee attacks in Cat Form have a chance to generate 20 additional energy."
Tier 4 4 Piece Bonus: "Increases your armor by 1400 in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form."
Tier 4 4 Piece Bonus: "Increases your strength by 30 in Cat Form."

Комментарий от Thottbot

i dont get how the 2 piece set ability works at all... wth does (-2).1 mean?

Комментарий от Thottbot

lol. This is tier 5 guys. Go to google vid and check out tier 5, this is the new raid set.

Комментарий от Thottbot

75 extra damage is a lot considering how much extra attack power you would have to have to be equal to that. set bonuses arn't supposed to be extremely good. they're usually just something interesting that adds versatility without making the set straight up better than using other gear.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Personally I'm just happy to see that blizzard are no longer intent on creating sets that push people towards a specific build and specific role.

While I'm predominently restoration with a dash of feral for flavour (currently 0/13/51) I've never liked that the raid sets were all about the healing. I mean why create the talent trees if you are only going to have high level gear for one branch?

Happily BC has solved this and makes it fairer for those that don't want to stand around and take the raid aggro when a tank dies : P

Комментарий от Thottbot

This seems to be a totally amazing piece of gear. I am curious about the stamina bonuses though. They seem quite light on, as if we're a dps class now, not tanking. Am I missing something here?

Комментарий от Thottbot

agility is now comparible to stam with the mitigation from imp LOTP. but those stats dont come close to matching stam even on a physcal fight.

on a magic fight, stam is king.

read http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=104460564&sid;=1 for our best bear gear list based on bear tank points.
(i isnt updated enough to list feral staff of lashing as the best tank weapon)

Комментарий от Thottbot

i agree this is the first time druid armour doesn't look like a peice of crap thats been digested and then worn. im not complaining about the stats thou, lol no yellow sockets . . .

Комментарий от Thottbot

correct there is a lack of yellow sockets, and some meta gems require them. However if u put a "green" gem (one that fits yellow or blue) in a blue socket you get credit for both colors. So gaining enough of the required gems for your meta socket is no big deal when u get 2 credits for every one gem u equip.

Комментарий от Thottbot

ware can i get this set at?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Why all the gushing about this horrifically misallocated set? Honestly, it's not the best for dps or for tanking, it's just flat out middling.

Instant regrowth is only ever useful as a PvP thing. And the int/spi on both this and t4 point towards pvp - if you're shifting out during your raid to support the healing, chances are you should have brought your healing gear in the first place. This is just like the feral pvp stuff, except that that at least has +heal on it.
This is just terrible :(

Комментарий от Thottbot

Chestgaurd of the Vanquished Defender - Kael'thas Sunstrider in The Eye

Gloves of the Vanquished Defender - Leotheras the Blind in Serpentshrine Cavern

Helm of the Vanquished Defender - Lady Vashj in Serpentshrine Cavern

Leggings of the Vanquished Defender - Fathom-Lord Karathress in Serpentshrine Cavern

Pauldrons of the Vanquished Defender - Void Reaver in The Eye

Комментарий от Thottbot

Unfortunately, even after the 2.1.0 buffs, the set bonuses on Nordrassil are total garbage. I wish they'd just copy the Malorne bonuses onto this. :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

i have herd the set spec is brocken on the instant cast regroth is that true?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Although this does have some pretty good stats that us feral druids need I am still concerned about it having no defense. Sure we have other slots but is it even possible to get to uncrittable while wearing the whole set? Imo the 4 set bonus should have been in the +30 defense rating range.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well what you have to remember is that druids don't benefit as much from defense rating as warriors/paladins. Druids benefit more from armor rating (which can hit a cap of 75% dmg reduction), stamina and resilience. Stamina is key, seeing as there is no cap on it, and by Black Temple a tanking druid should have about if not above 30k hp. Agility is also nice, giving us dodge, a little extra armor, and some crit to generate more threat.
Items with resilience can easily be obtained by pvp/arena. Int to feral druids is nothing, but stam and armor is amazing. I myself just picked up the Feral Mantle from Void Reaver. Before that I was tanking with Merciless and dps'ing with tier 4. I have the the leather helm from High King, seeing as our guild is past kara and I won't get a chance to get the tier helm. I have a 71% dmg reduction from all physical attacks, and around 20k health buffed in a raid.
Even though this set does not have any D-rating, does not mean it is horrible. It just means that you will have to try harder to find more stamina gear ;P

Комментарий от Thottbot

I have a question, with the new /cancelform macro intergrated into patch 2.3, druids are able to use Fel Blossom/Nightmare Seed and Healthstones in bear form (anything without a GCD)

I havent checked before, and its late now so forgive my asking - but hey who knows the -2 second thing could mean no GCD anyway ;)

So, does Rejuv work as part of this macro? Cause if so, you could pop them while tanking using the below macro...

/cancelform
/cast rejuvination
/cast dire bear form

Im guessin it doesnt work, and if so at least we can use the other stuff in form ^^ Just a thought tho..

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yes it does set off the GCD when you form out and cast it. But the macro you posted casts it then when the GCD is over it IMMEDIATLY sends you back into Bear form. The macro you posted should work.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Get 2 pieces of this set, preferably gloves and legs, gloves enchant, legs socket, and then two thunderheat harness pieces for the mangle improve (35 energy) then u got urself a kcikass pvp set =) (for thunderheart get chest and helm)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Hey i am a lvl 70 druid on the dethecus server, and yes, i also think that this set is awsome, the thing is, what should i wear as a feral druid? there is the Gladiator Dragonhide Gear, which is very nice, or this set? i already got the shoulders of the dragonhide, if you can tell me, i will like that XD

PS:hey.. Naturesrage: lvl65 tauren druid, from dethecus server.
Ive never seen you, and i think ive killed tons of horde, my name is Shapechifter on the dethecus server, i dont wanna make this personal or anything, but i wonder if ive ever seen you, i just wanna get you 1 time :) please dont take this personal,

if you wanan search for me, im Shapechifter, dethecus server, Alliance, altho, cat form from taurons looks cooler :) but still LOL.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Nordrassil means "crown of the heavens" in Darnassian. Nordrassil is also the name of the world tree, which was saved from Archimonde by the great druid, Malfurion Stormrage, as seen in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hudfmWyu6mw

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