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Let's take a look at the math:
A total cost of 8250 arena points is 15% more than the season 1 set costs. (8250/7172=1.15)
So you would expect about 15% more "stats" from it, right?
Comparing _every_ attribute from season 2 set to the season 1 set, we get the following numbers:
218,69% armor (+997)
112,08% stamina (+29)
80,95% intellect (-16) (even worse than Dreadgear)
113,14% dmg/healing (+23)
107,14% crit rating (+4)
103,77% resilience (+9)
100,00% sockets (+0)
I'm going to weigh every attribute equal and calculate the geometric mean (cos we're working with ratios here), which yields the following result:
(218.69*112.08*80.95*113.14*107.14*103.77*100)^(1/7) = 113.95.
This means, you get ~114% stats increase for 115% cost increase, or put the other way round: you get what you pay for - if you are expecting to get only 7172 arena points until the end of season 2 (that means, you're going to have an average rating of 1714 /1655 / 1565 for 16 weeks), go for season 1 set. Otherwise, earning 8250 arena points in 16 weeks would require you to have an average rating of 1783 , 1716 , 1619 , which wouldn't leave any points for anything besides the set. An interesting side note: the Dreadgear season 2 set is about 118% (4% more) better than its season 1 counterpart - statswise.

So it all comes down to this: is your (5v5) team-rating around 1565? Go for season 1. Is closer to 1619? Go for season 2. Is it (constantly) better than 1619? Grab some weapons, too. ;) In case you already have full / half season 1 set, I would advise to complete the set and then go for the new weapons.

Комментарий от 40847

Great gear!
Although tier 5 is better...
As a lock i am... Locks need Stamina which both sets have and Spell damage which tier 5 has much more than Gladiotor set :(
In PvP we need also Spell damage...
Think about it!

Комментарий от 40449

Comparing the two M-gladiator sets I would much rather prefer this even with SL build.

Dreadgear / Felshroud

stamina 294 / 269 ( 25 stam less)
spell dmg 205 / 198 ( 7 spell dmg less)

spell crit rating 0 / 110 ( which is + ~5% spell crit rating)

for 25 stam and 7 spell dmg (ignoring the intel , which warlock basicly dont need) this is WAY better set in any way you can think of.

Not only for destru locks ,but for SL and maybe even affliction (crits on Nightfall with nice gear are rly something )

So basicly THIS IS the set that is better , so dont waste your points on the dreadgear ;) This is going to be way more usefull (not to mention that if someday u wanna respec for more dinamic play - from SL/affl to Destru ,the other set cant benefit you in any way ,it would be like you even dont have crit gear from 5man :P Which makes the points spend for the dreadgear a total waste )

Комментарий от 40449

I've tested with my warlock with a friend on lightning's blade . He had full normal Gladiator set Dreadgear + normal Gladiator staff . He speced to destruction . He couldnt crit me for ages. I have Only 50 resilence ,exactly zero Gladiator Parts. He had full and still nothing. He had exactly 15% crit without Devastation (so that is 20% total) and even I had more.

For 5 duels he crited me like 2 times and in half ot the duels he was spaming Shadow bolt rank 1 just to get the Shadowvurn debuff proc.

Overall if he would have picked up Felshroud instead of Dreadgear he would have 25% crit with destruction spells which arent very easy to achieve for any warlock with that much resilence and stamina gear (not to mention that most of the raiding warlocks dont even have 25% unbuffed)

Ofcourse DoT's arent effected as much as crit from the resilence rating and going for SL/ Affl in arena and picking up the Dreadgear seems way more reasonable. But these kind of actions wont allow you someday to respec for fun and start 2hiting ppl with soulfires , which aint my idea of good gear.

Комментарий от 59953

With the up and coming change to resilience in 2.2 (As it now effects DoT's) the set is even more appealing when compering it to Dreadgear.

So dont even think about going for Dreadgear

Комментарий от 15914

i think it's worth it to mix and match as you see fit rather than to judge the sets as wholes. for example, felweave shoulders are a no brainer, as is the headpiece for any spec. however i think the fear bonus on the dreadweave gloves makes up for the crit even for a dest build. as for the pants and chest, that should depend on your spec. dreadweave has considerably more stam and +dmg (9stam/4+dmg and 12stam/9+dmg respectively) in those slots while felweave of course has crit (29 and 30 rating).

"but what about set bonuses?" you ask. in my opinion if you realistically plan on getting 4 or more pieces, it's worth it to get at least two of each for double +35 resilience. i've had -0.2 sec immo before (at 60 from the blue PvP gear), and it really wasn't anything to write home about, even though i was dest then. i think 35 resilience is a better bonus, and it's worth getting it both times. one more reason to mix and match.

i'll probably go felweave shoulders, head and pants and dreadweave chest and gloves. i'm 27/34/0 right now, but i'd like to keep the option open for going back to dest.

Комментарий от pepsii

As destru i picked chest, head, legging and shoulders from felweave and hands from dreadweave, because of the 50% off fear interruption. As anything else than destru you should pick shoulders + head from felweave and hands, leggings and chest from dreadweave for the highest resilience.

Комментарий от asole

Doesn't matter if u are affilication or destruction build. Felweave better than Dreadgear. Why? Yes, Dreadgear has 25 stamina 27 int and 7 sdmg more than Felweave BUT Dreadgear has 110 crit rating which is equal to %5 crit rating. You should be low crit rating if u are aff build. Your enemies already have lots of resilliance and prolly u'll crit rare. I know dot's cant crit but shadow bolt or searing pain can (I dont think an aff build pass nightfall).

There tons of gems and some non set honor epics which u can do somethink about that 25 sta and 27 int. But u cant do anythink about 110 crit rate. Also bonus from Hands equal now (patch 2.2).

Комментарий от 80922

if we get 16 weeks for a season as savra said and i think by now most of the season has passed so what i would do is prepair for the gear needed for season set 3. And cause of set 1 and 2 the next will rpob look like malefic (t6) and might then be the last (they cant keep inventing new looks nor make pvp sets better then tier 6 in pve). Anyway time for getting entire season 2 set seems to be long gone.
Considering the dreadgear vs felweave id say unless your fully relieing on dots and draining go for a lot of felweave parts.

Комментарий от Pingone

It's very common for warlocks to use 2-3 parts of this Felweave set and 2-3 of the dreadweave set to get a double +35 setbonus.

Комментарий от Snoopybat

got this shoulder on my warlock they seriously rock! :)

Комментарий от 157005

Since it is common for people to mix the Dreadgear and the Felshroud in order to get the 2 +35 resilience bonuses, I thought I would compare the items by slot to help people decide how to mix them.

Shoulders
Felweave: +1 Stamina, +14 Spell Crit, +2 resilience
Dreadweave: +13 Spell Hit

I would go with the Dreadweave here. It is generally accepted that even for crit builds, spell hit is still better, Also keep in mind that the shoulders offer the least amount of spell crit out of the Felshroud, so since you need to give up 2 pieces this particular slot will cost you the least.

Hands
Felweave: +1 Stamina, +19 Spell Crit, +2 resilience
Dreadweave: +10 Intellect

This one seems like a no brainer to me, the Felweave is just flat out better regardless of your build. Even if you are for some reason attached to the 0.2 second Fear bonus, you can still grab these and have 4 Dreadweave.

Chest (includes socket bonus)
Felweave: +34 Spell Crit
Dreadweave: +12 Stamina, +6 Intellect, +2 Resilience, +9 Spell Damage

Given the huge difference in stamina and spell damage, I would select the Dreadweave robe. Yes, 34 is a lot of Spell Crit, but if you can't give that up you should just get the entire Felshroud rather than mix.

Legs
Felweave: +29 Spell Crit
Dreadweave: +9 Stamina, +7 Intellect, +3 Resilience, +4 Spell Damage

Head
Felweave: +18 Spell Crit, +6 Spell Damage
Dreadweave: +6 Stamina, +9 Intellect

Since so far we have 2 pieces from the Dreadgear and only 1 piece from the Felshroud, at least one of these two MUST be Felweave. If you are heavy crit, you might consider making both of these Felweave. If crit is less important to you, I would suggest the Dreadweave legs and the Felweave head piece. This way you give up less stamina and gain spell damage.

So with our mixed set, we come to these numbers:

Armor: 1837
Stamina: 289
Intellect: 81
Spell Damage: 211
Resilience: 134
Spell Crit: 37
Spell Hit: 13

These numbers do not include socket bonuses (for easier comparison, since Wowhead does not), and most importantly do not include the 2 +35 resilience bonuses. Altogether, you come to a total of 215 resilience for the mixed set.

Given the drastically higher resilience, higher spell damage than either set alone, and only slightly less stamina than the Dreadgear set, I feel this mixed set is the way to go unless you are a high crit build.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Crit Strike over stm and int ?

Комментарий от Thottbot

arena...
/sigh

seriosly, who is even gonna raid anymore? ever since season 2 started, our raid progress has come to a standstill...

now everyone is bent on arena, which is fine, but still... meh!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Fel vs Dread
Armor 0
Sta -25
Int -32
Crit 110
Res 3
Hit -13
Dam -7

Комментарий от Thottbot

I don't agree - some of us play this game to PvP and can't stand PvE - Why should that mean that PvP'ers only have access to 2nd rate gear? Also why do you expect to get gear from PvE instances that pwns ppl in PvP - You can't have the best of both worlds just from doing PvE, that just wouldn't be fair... It's about time ppl start realising that ALOT of players PvP only!

Комментарий от Thottbot

you think pvp requires no skill and coordination? LOL

Комментарий от Thottbot

Personally I'd rather PVP than just rack up repair bills because some nab sh*t can't understand that he needs to dive in the water on spout. Then have some nab sh*t guild leader barking at us because of the nab mage's mistake in not paying attention. PVE R FUN!

Kind of sucks on Aerie Peak for PVE, glad they have this option for tier 5 gear. Not like anyone outside of Focus and EMC are getting it on our server, and they're always packed full. Benefits of having members who don't nab it up I guess, but it blows for your average joe looking to get into a guild.

That said, it still take the average player about 5-7 weeks to get anything decent. Note: Average. Still takes a few weeks even if you're 2k+ rating.

As far as difficulty of PVE vs. Arena, they are comparable in that PVP you normally get a lot more shots at winning, but PVE it's a lot harder to f* up really (DBM, well known/timed strats, preparation for a given event, you know what you're getting into)... or be put into a situation you'll have little to no control over (read: instagib/near-instagib).

However Arena.. you gotta be prepared for anything and everything, and every way that person is going to play his job. You simply find their mistake and exploit it to the fullest until you're killing the last guy with rank 1 drain soul and thanking him. Or you just eat a few pom pyro crits, go get drinks, and wait for the next match.

Комментарий от Thottbot

lmao! Exactly that.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am new to the Arena because I am now bored w/ PvE. I started comparing the two lock sets and have come to the conclusion that getting a mix from both gear sets makes the most sense so that locks can get both (2) +35 resilience bonus =70 and best overall stat increases:

If I were to go all Felshroud or Dreadweave, I would get these stats:

Felshroud: (Thottbot Score of 804)
Armor: 1837 (same)
Stamina: 269 (-25 compared to Dreadweave)
Intellect: 68 (-32 compared to Dreadweave)
Spell Crit: 110 (+110 compared to Dreadweave)
Resilience: 170 (+3 compared to Dreadweave)
* + 35 resilience for (2) set bonus (170)
Durability: 330 (same)
Spells): 198 (-7 compared to Dreadweave)

Dreadgear: (Thottbot Score of 767)
Armor: 1837 (same)
Stamina: 294 (+25 compared to Felshroud)
Intellect: 100 (+32 compared to Felshroud)
Spell Hit: 13 (+13 compared to Felshroud)
Resilience 167 (-3 compared to Felshroud)
* + 35 resilience for (2) set bonus
Durability: 330 (same)
Spells: 205 (+7 compared to Felshroud)

Combo of Felshroud (Gloves, Shoulders and Helmet) and Dreadweave: (Robe and Pants) - (Thottbot Score of 791)
Armor: 1992 (Felshroud+155=Combo=Dreadgear+155)
Stamina: 301 (Felshroud+32=Combo=Dreadgear+7)
Intellect: 78 (Felshroud+10=Combo=Dreadgear-22)
Spell Crit: 62 (Felshroud-48=Combo=Dreadgear+62)
Resilience: 209 (Felshroud+39=Combo=Dreadgear+42)
* You get 2x the (2) +35 Resilience by having two pieces form both sets
Durability: 395 (Felshroud+65=Combo=Dreadgear+65)
Spells: 210 (Felshroud+12=Combo=Dreadgear+5)

*** HELMET SHOULD BE FELSHROUD FOR MY CALCULATION TO BE CORRECT. ***

* I hope my math is correct.

The nice armor, stam, resilience, durability and spell makes a strong argument to pick a combo set rather than choosing only one set. I can only see the argument for Felshroud for the +48 Crit if it makes a big enough difference to destruction locks and their dps. This combo also allows the flexibility for a lock to change specs from affliction to destruction and still make the set useful. Yes, you would lose the reduction in casting time w/ the (4) set but is that strong enough reason to sacrifice all the +bonuses from the combo set?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Please note that I mistakenly said Dreadweave Helmet; it should be Felweave Gloves, Shoulders and Helmet.

Комментарий от Thottbot

As far as i know, the 2x35 res. rating stack!

I have looked at some top rating guys, (rank 5 i think)
and they had that combo as earlyer said.

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