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Not really. Sure, you could use the set for entry level raiding, but It is not that good at all. It's lacking Mana/5 as well as intellect, expending most of its points on Resilience and increased Stamina.

As you can also see, they removed the spell damage set. This makes it so that Protection specced paladins cannot get a tanking set for PvE.

You completely missed his point. These items aren't for raids, they're PvP items that are earned with PvE rep and a bunch of gold.

The PvE for PvP items refers to the fact that the reputation one must earn for the new Vendor bought PvP items is from PvE factions. Grind Lower City rep, get some PvP legs.

The vise versa (PvP for PvE items) refers to the arena weapons being far and above better than many weapons one can earn from raids, especially entry level raids.

It could be looked at like this for the PvE for PvP items standpoint. However, PvP for PvE items doesn't really work.

Sure, the PvP weapons work for PvE. The point is that they are not itemized correctly for PvE! PvP weapons and armor uses large quantities of it's resources for extra Stamina and Resilience. PvE weapons, obtained through various raids, take those wasted stats and put them to use in higher damage and whatever stat your class uses for damage only. This is the reason that PvP weapons will never be as good as PvE weapons for damage, and vice-versa for survivability in PvP combat.

Thus, PvP weapons are not as good as PvE weapons. They will work, yes, but also as the level cap grows larger, so will Item resources and the difference will continue to be exacerbated.

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Комментарий от KainDarkfire

You miss the point; this is only a starter PvP set, it's real value is tiny, can barely fill in for greens and low level blues, but at least NEW level 70s can grab blues that won't COMPLETELY FAIL them if they ran around Battlegrounds or the Arena.

Also, these sets help some classes get easy offspec blues.

I'm planning on getting the Holy set myself on my tank pally.

EDIT: Holy set, not Ret, I miss Shockadin more. ;)

Комментарий от Windwalk

The idea is that you can easily get honored with all these factions while leveling up. So that when you hit 70, you have a set of gear to start PvP with.

As for this set specifically, I believe that they're changing the 4 piece set bonus to: "Increases the healing done by holy shock by 30%"

Комментарий от glaka

man they better add a lamellar set (+spelldmg one) they have lamellar for everyother set

Комментарий от 130037

Any word on whether having these pieces will count towards the set bonuses currently found with the S1, 2, and 3 pvp rewards?

In other words, would having a piece of this, plus a piece of S1 get me the 2-piece bonus?

Комментарий от Chalcedon1

I hope the add a Lamellar set- As a tankadin, I may buy the chestplate to fill in some tank stats with socketing, or I may just grab the aldor revered tank chestplate.

Комментарий от Sieben

There any boots that match this set currently out there?

Комментарий от 66063

Just got the whole set. Luckily I was honored with just the five factions needed ;-)

Granted, this is not a fantastic set in any way, but as a n00b-70, it's lot better than what I had. I've already seen improvements in BGs.

For those who complain: Remember that this set comes VERY cheap: The rep you will get from doing instances you'd do anyway, and the money is about 100 gold all in all.

Комментарий от 53196

Can anyone tell where are the quartermasters from each piece of the set????

Комментарий от Thatamos

There have been requests for matching boots and belts. There are two different belts I've found that are humanely attainable, along with the boots. They are in the following links below;

Belts
Avenger's Waistguard
Deathforge Girdle

Boots
Obsidian Clodstompers

There are other boots that are a bit more color-coordinated to the rest of the set, but keep in mind, they're also epic boots you get from the last string of bosses in Kara. It's not worth working 8 hours to get some slightly more matching boots than a few hours for nicely fitting. The belt works with the boots, which both work together to look good with the rest of the set. Pair that with the Blood Knight tabard and it looks fantastic.

Matching Weapons
Terokk's Quill
Despair

As soon as I nab the boots, I'll upload a pic of my main (70 Pally) with Terokk's Quill, just to show the sheer awesomeness of fashion + stats = WIN!

P.S. - These weapons and armors are also more designed for a Ret Pally in mind. It's rather late + serious lack of sleep + college = laaaaaazy. 'Night folks!

Комментарий от cheesepizza

I like the Battledgear set!

Комментарий от 96648

in oder to get this set you need:

keepers of time - honored

cenarion expedition - honored

the sha'tar - honored

lower city - honored

thrallmar - honored

Комментарий от finger

I have a question... this set has been added by patch 2.40 or 2.41?

Комментарий от Thottbot

This set is exactly the same in stats as the Grand Marshal's Redemption. If you like PVE better than PVP, go for the Ornamented set; if you PVP better than PVE, go for the Redemption set for Healadin or Aegis for Tankadin/Shockadin. What you have to do is earn Rep with different factions: Honor Hold, Cenarion Expedition, Keepers of Time (Caverns of Time), Lower City, and Sha'tar (Aldor/Scryer). Once you get lvl 70 and honored, you can purchase the pieces from the Quartermasters of each faction (Note: Rep gear are on the last page of each Quartermaster's listing. You can only see the gear for your specific Class). So, once you reach Outland, you can actually start working on the Reps before you get to lvl 70, then get geared up. For Pallys and some other Classes you actually get to purchase two different versions of the Rep Gear Sets. I bought both so I could switch if I wanted to.

PVE
Crusader's Scaled Battlegear: Retridin
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item-set=607/опора-главнокомандующего

PVP
Grand Marshal's Aegis: Tankadin/Shockadin
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item-set=589/эгида-главнокомандующего

Grand Marshal's Redemption: Healadin
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item-set=693/возмездие-главнокомандующего

Grand Marshal's Vindication: Retridin
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item-set=607/опора-главнокомандующего

Let me know what you think.

Комментарий от DaveMustang

TBC Classic: Can't be bought in phase 1. Don't smash ur head against a wall like i did trying to find a vendor

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