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Комментарий от Gtaz

гномским можно пользоваться взятый с аука?

This was a primary reason to go Goblin Engineering before Blizzard nerfed them to an abyssmal 5 minute CD (that still shares your bomb/grenade timers). The new sapper charges you can make in TBC also do more damage to you than the targets. I'm not sure what Blizzard is trying to say with these changes. It really is a shame to have sapper charges reduced to their current state. On the plus side if you are unhappy with it TBC will be allowing us to change our specializations.

Комментарий от Insanity

Than awesome trick you can pull off with explosives such as this and the new sapper charge.

First buy one Flask of Petrification. Select a crowed city (Ironforge or Orgrimmar) during night time on a weekday. With a group of at least 5-10 people (Preferably rogues or mages) run into the city and die near the mailbox. Only do this with 9 people though because you want to save the guy with the Flask for last. Have him run in as soon as you guys are near you bodies and have him drink the flask. All the enemy players will hopefully, start hitting the invincible allied player. As soon as the flask is drained start shooting off them sapper charges and any aoe you have. You should get rewarded with a lot of dead suckers lying at your feet.*

*Note you may die in the process due to the "smart" players who don't tag themselves :)

Комментарий от P51mus

Useable during a pally bubble, making you immune to the self inflicted damage but harming everyone around you. Quite fun.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Where can you obtain the schematic for this?

Комментарий от Thottbot

I love them sapper charges for mass pvp use! It deals about 640 damage to all attackers around it! I testet it against some 60 palas and any other player who was unluky to be in my explosive radius!

It's so damn funny! You can be a pala for 1 sec! Just run into the enemy lines... let it explode and watch while the yellow 640 pops out of all nearby attackers!

And it doesn't deal the full damage against you everytime. It's mostly about the half of the damage you deal. About 350 dmg. And hey.... whats 350dmg for a lvl 60 player? Its restored in no time!

Im a UD Rogue, and in my opinion this is one of the best mass pvp engineering devices!

no aiming, instant cast, great damage, low ressource cost!

Your personal pvp a-bomb!

Комментарий от Thottbot

I wasn't sure of the power of this until I used it. For the "Forsaken Courier" quest, the objective is to kill a level 35 who is guarded by four or five other level 35s. Well, I ran in, hoping to kill the objective, and one-shotted three of them for over 1200 each. It crits! Well, I bubbled up and healed to full, then proceeded to solo all five of them as a level 32 paladin.

Комментарий от Thottbot

These make deadmines runs incredibly easy for rogues with no other AoE skills. 1-shot as many elites as you can, then hit evasion, sprint around and aggro EVERYTHING. When there's about 40 of them near you, BOOM! Kill off any stragglers and heal up before doing it all over again.

Scares the hell out of people though when you show 'em it for the first time.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i have just reached lvl 225 on my eng. as a lvl 25 UD rogue and proceeded to Gadgetzan to buildup my skill... The trainor says that I must be lvl 35 to continue with my training. Question. How can you make a bomb for your lvl 20 priest and have him use it? Is this bomb not lvl specific? My harvest reaper is lvl 30 req. is this bomb not? Just asking thanks

Комментарий от Thottbot

This has a 5 minute cooldown and triggers the one minute cooldown on the rest of the explosives, so no suicide spamming.

Комментарий от Thottbot

No, it doesn't have any level requirement, the only requirement it has is 205 Engineering.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Do you use it, it sits on the ground and blows up when a hostile runs over it? Or is it like a bomb thrown at your feet (blows up as soon as you use it), only it does damage to you too?

Комментарий от Thottbot

its just an instant AOE, similar to blastwave, but no daze ofc :P. Deals the damage listed to all and every single enemy within explosion radius, a damages you too for a little less damage. It can crit ( indepent roll for every target..quite nice when it hits for 1300++). Guess that since its fire damage..fire rst will reduce this damage, even on you. And paladins divine shield works wonders with this, just make sure you trigger it before it runs out..or you will feel the pain :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

I went to gadgetzan and went to the goblin artisan engineer but I cannot find where it is. I got to 220 engineering after the 1.9 patch and cannot find the recipe. If I for some reason do have it, is it a part, or explosive or etc...

Комментарий от Thottbot

You can prpbably down a fire protection potion before detonating and absorb all of the potental damage caused to you AND have Absorbtion left over, im gonna try it as soon as the servers are all back up, ill post my results as soon as i can!

Комментарий от Thottbot

this is fun with with hellfire, im a destruction spec'd locky (49) with lots of +firedmg gear,

1) sac voidwalker for shield
2) lay down sapper charge
3) cast hellfire

750 fire AoE + 200 Fire AoE every second

just gotta find a way to get in the middle of a bunch of people

Комментарий от Thottbot

- Get 10 Rogues/Druids with Engineering.
- Equip everyone with this n1 item.
- Stealth into a Raidgroup.
- Blast them from nowhere to oblivion.

Yes it can crit and it forces Rogues who vanished out of stealth.
It ownz :>

Комментарий от Thottbot

This will probably be a rehash of what others have posted so bear with me. My keys to using this item effectively no matter what class are, of course, hitting as many mobs with this while mitigating the personal damage. Easiest ways for me so far are:

1) Power Word Shield (Priest)

2) (Greater) Fire Protection Potion

3) Flame Ward (Mage)

4) Flame Resistance Aura (Paladin-a toss up)

5) Shield-type trinkets/weap-procs.

Wanna do great dmg and be damned sure you keep aggro on you as a Prot Specced Warrior? This is for you! :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Can Gnomish Engineers make this?

Комментарий от Thottbot

in AV i usually use my essence of eranikus to do a widespread AoE after i run into huge groups of players the later a few players die from the 450 damage DoT, i find this item even better for suicide runs ^^

Комментарий от Thottbot

Lots of people underestimate these charges, extremely useful in certain-death situations or just extra damage, and it does crit, 1200 damage so far, it's like a mini-blast wave, cheap to make as well. Have fun.

Комментарий от Thottbot

When a Warlock sacrifices a Voidwalker for a shield and then uses the Sapper Charge, will the damage be absorbed?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Used in AV last night. Managed to bubble and get inwhile they were tanking Stormpike. Crit for 1100 on about 20 guys, and wiped their tank. SP Reset and we won. Good times

Комментарий от Thottbot

Since Naxxramus landed in the world of Azeroth, the Argent Dawn have been fighting them on the front lines. They accept donations after you heve a craftsman Writs, these are one of the donations. In exchange for the donations you get Insignias (Dawn & Crusade), these you can exchange for goodies. You need 20 sapper charges.

Комментарий от Thottbot

ME GO BOOM!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Where is the trainer that allows you to learn this skill?

Комментарий от Thottbot

These things are the definition of slaughter for 29 twinks, my friend and I both made gnome rogue twinks, got their engineering up to 240, then gave em these from my main. Sprinting into a flag room, or to the enemy FC, we can wipe the whole room in an instant if we both set em off at the same time. :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

This is the item to use when you're batteling in a BG and is about to die! xD To make good timing you may even make a macro with some-thing like "MYARRGH, take this!" Of course, the horde will only hear some "Buur buur blop" but it's funny anyway ^^

Комментарий от Thottbot

so i was a lvl 28 warlock in wsg and there was a large group of guys piled up that we were all in fighting in a huge brawl all of a sudden a gnome mage comes in and a huge flame wave blast comes out and spreads dealing 706dmg! Im like "holy %^&*!" because it did more dmg than my max health - 687. I was thinking that it was flame wave....but they don't get that till lvl 30...and it did like 3 times that...hmmm... finnally i decided that it was some super engineering bomb.... guess this is it...

freaked me out

Комментарий от Thottbot

Is this a goblin engineer only item or can gnomish engineers learn it too? cuz im 297 and ive yet to see it

Комментарий от Thottbot

dude, gather up 10 engineers and in a 40 man pvp, just have somebody throw a big(ger) one bomb in a mass group, and have 10 guys run in there and activate this sucker... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Комментарий от Thottbot

http://i13.tinypic.com/6begl5k.jpg

610+513+498+519+687+711+737 = 4275 dmg done for 393 dmg on self. i'd take that any day :)

hmmm maybe i should have took an elixir of firepower first ...

Комментарий от Thottbot

whats the differance between goblin and gnome engineering and which should i pick im a lvl 40 paladin and this is working out great so far because not only do i get money but i get a ranged attack so if i want to get the more money AND get good ranged attack which should i pick (i want a higher ranged attack so whichever one gives me the better one for me please tell me which one that is)

Комментарий от Thottbot

BEST GANK IVE EVER SEEN

prepair to be shocked and amused

go to youtube and look up --bombing iornforge--
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pls rate to point others to the fun.

If your ali dont get MAD get EVEN
....and post a video to prove it ;)

Комментарий от Thottbot

where do i get it wich trainer and where is he plz answer.:)

Комментарий от Thottbot

OK mediocre damage, especially at higher levels, so the real timeless beauty of this is as a destealther for the AOEless.

Think there could be a stealthed character near you? Pop this utility. There goes their first-strike advantage, they are exposed.

Best use I've seen is in AV when capturing/recapturing towers. Ever notice when caping a tower's flag that you almost get to the end of the progress bar when bam a hidden player strikes? Pop one of these beauties about 80% through your cap and *poof* their powerful first-strike is negated :)

Goblin Sapper Charges are cheap to make, do it~ do it even if you think you are alone. If its blast radius reveals no one then you can rest assure that there is no one, they would have been near you by then.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This bomb is awesome for the end of the Scarlet Monastery - Armory.
After Herod dies, all the lowbie, non-elites rush in.
Aggro them all to you, trigger the Goblin Sapper Charge.
Most will die right away! Those that do not die will be even weaker than they already were and are easily dispatched. (A mage's AoE effects are a great compliment to this.)

Also great in PvP. Use in Flag Room, or at a Resource Flag to damage multiple enemies. You may die, but that was probably going to happen anyway--you just get to put the hurt on more enemies before you go out in a Bang!

Goblin Engineer -- FTW!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The blast raidus is something akin to dynamite (about 5 yards) and is centered around character. There is no concentration timer for this; it explodes as soon as your Use it. If you can build this, you can build the Goblin Construction Helmet, and the two have pretty good synergy.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anyone ever think of simply using a flame shield (also made by engineering) before hand? Makes the self damage minimal, works great for me! :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anybody know how long it takes after using this before you can pop another one?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

5 minute cooldown for the charges and triggers a one minute cooldown on the rest of your explosives.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

sorta like real life then huh.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So how does one learn this?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My pally is gonna be a goblin engineer.... (=

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if you have reck on .. it´ll be 100% crit ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Umm.... Wow. O_O

You know... I'm suddenly envisioning a PvP guild powerleveling a bunch of lower level characters up to 205 engineering and charging them into enemy cities armed with these babies...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Get a limited immunity potion and you can copy the Paladins Bombing runs with greater effect

Комментарий от viklok

Can this item be used in bear from ?

Комментарий от Yeahmate

Raw Mats:

8 Solid Stones
2 Mageweave Cloth
1 Mithril Bar

Комментарий от QuickBASIC

There's a lot of confusion about this currently. There are basically four types of items that can be made by engineers:

BoE items that can be used by any engineer and traded.
BoP items that can be crafted by a specific specialization, but used by any engineer
Items that require a specific specialization to use.
BoP items that can be crafted by an engineer, but can be used even after engineering is dropped

Gnomish Engineering allows you to craft these items:

Item	Bind on Pickup	Requires Engineering to Use	Requires Gnomish to Use
Гномьи очки	Yes	Yes	No
Пояс гномов, хранящий от вреда	No	Yes	No
Гномская шапка контроля над разумом	No	Yes	No
Гномьи реактивные сапоги	No	Yes	No
Сверхбезопасный транспортер: Прибамбасск	No*	Yes	Yes
Увеличитель мира	No	Yes	Yes
Боевой цыпленок гномов	Yes	Yes	No
Смертоносный луч гномов	Yes	No	No
Сетемет гномов	No	Yes	No
Уменьшающий луч гномов	No	Yes	No
Чертеж: инкрустированный мифриловый цилиндр	N/A	N/A	N/A
Крошка Дымок	Yes	Yes	No

* This is Bind on Use (not equip).

If your intent is to switch to Goblin after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft Гномьи очки, Боевой цыпленок гномов, Смертоносный луч гномов, and Крошка Дымок (these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level gnomish engineering again.

Сверхбезопасный транспортер: Прибамбасск and Увеличитель мира cannot be used by a non-gnomish engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.

NOTE: Смертоносный луч гномов doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.

Goblin Engineering allows you to craft these items:

Item	Bind on Pickup	Requires Engineering to Use	Requires Goblin to Use
Гоблинские реактивные сапоги	No	No	No
Рецепт: гоблинское ракетное топливо	No	N/A	N/A
Гоблинская мортира	No	Yes	No
Шахтерская гоблинская каска	Yes	Yes	No
Шлем гоблинской конструкции	No	Yes	No
Великан	No	Yes	No
Гоблинский бомбомет	Yes	Yes	No
Гоблинский реактивный шлем	No	Yes	No
Гоблинский саперный заряд	No	Yes	No
Гоблинское драконье ружье	Yes	No	No
Гоблинская мортира	No	Yes	No
Крошечная ходячая бомба	Yes	No	No
Пространственный проходчик - Круговзор	No*	Yes	Yes

* This is Bind on Use (not equip).

If your intent is to switch to Gnomish after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft Шахтерская гоблинская каска, Гоблинский бомбомет, Гоблинское драконье ружье, and Крошечная ходячая бомба (these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level Goblin Engineering again.

NOTE: I recommend you go Gnomish first because most items crafted by Goblin are comsumable, whereas Gnomish is toys and trinkets that can be used after you switch. If you do Goblin first, you'll not be able to craft some of the most powerful explosives in the game for yourself and need to buy them reguarily if you want to use them.

Пространственный проходчик - Круговзор cannot be used by a non-goblin engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.

NOTE: Гоблинское драконье ружье doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.

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