From my experience with this dagger, the it generally procs 1-2 times per mob i fight but, sometimes i've have it not proc at all, so its best to not rely on it if thats what your going for, i'd suggest maybe going for the Vanquisher's Sword that is from RFD as well.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10823

Comes from a quest to kill the Lich in RFD
For alliance you get it from the Cathedral in Stormwind
For Horde you get it from Andrew Bromwell in UC, in the Mage Quarter.

There are a few better choices for a hunter i believe that provide stats that benefit you more in the long run.

Комментарий от moonasha

The proc on this dagger is strange. Sometimes you hear it fizzle but not cast. Since the dagger actually casts frostbolt, I don't know if it fails to proc while you're moving or the GCD is active, or something else.
Not very relevant, just thought I'd post this info.

Комментарий от 4928

This dagger is aslo fast.

Комментарий от Catalyze

The drop rate for me last night was 20% or 1/5 runs. My 40 rogue went in with a team of 4 other rogues of about the same level. We developed a path to Amnennar that required us to only attack 2 groups before we got to him. We found that you can wind your way up to him and hop on the hut roofs to avoid mobs blocking the trail in front. Stay to the trail edges when needed and you can get to him in under 10 mins. The mob right before Amnennar (a group of 4 or 5 if I remember right) will not aggro when you attack him if you fight him close to his hut at the hill top. The dagger is a very nice upgrade from the Ziggler that it replaced.

Комментарий от Tabris

What Dagger would people recommend around this level for a dagger that could be farmed outside an instance? I'm a mid 50's Mage but I'm trying to help my mid 40's guildie find better daggers for their level.

Комментарий от 67219

I enterred yesterday and got it ,just once.Can you dual wield it???

Комментарий от Keepertje8

It's also quite nice to run this instance for Small Radiants Shards if you're a high level enchanter, you can even bring a rogue with you for the dagger and some boost fee. Glutton may drop the Blue Pauldrons, there's a rare spawn on the route, and Amnennar drops up to 2 blue's, which disenchants into Small Radiant Shards... Shouldn't take longer then 10 minutes to do a run...

Make sure to skip the first 2 bosses, since they take long and require many trash kills. Just go to the right as you enter in the instance

Комментарий от 28842

It took me 18 runs to get 2 of those.. the first one dropped on the 16th run and then the second dropped on the 18th run

Комментарий от 91555

This baby rules! My 39 twink rogue is using this in off-hand as a twink.. hes subt/assa so hes not using it that much but it gives nice dmg and the frostbolt that it casts ( instant ) can be usefull too but it dosent procc much in off-hand tho, you could also go for 2 of theese and a combat specc but i prefer subt tbh..

Комментарий от 70404

Just a FYI:

He summons 3 adds at 60% health, then another 3 at 30% health.

Be aware that if you haven't killed the first three by the time he hits 30% health you will have six to deal with or nuke through, however, once he is killed they instantly despawn.

And a useful tip:

If you are being run through by a high level rogue, all you have to do is take the right path from the entrance, kill the various groups of mobs until you get to the spiral section, then the high level rogue turns right and stealths up round, past all mobs (may as well kill Glutton as they are going past, and Ragglesnout if he's there). The person being run through should wait near the entrance (doesn't need to be this far, but better safe than sorry) because two patrols will walk near the path where the right hand fork from the entrance meets the start of the spiral upto Amnennar. Once the high level rogue (or druid ofc) has reached Amnennar the player being run through should run down to where the right hand fork meets the beginning of the spiral upto Amnennar, and move as close to the wall (at the top of which is the next level up of the spiral) as they can, then the rogue kills Amnennar with master looter on and job done :)

Killed him about 10 times now... dagger hasn't dropped once :(

Комментарий от 101663

lvl 70 mage boosting af rogue. Can do it in 5 min just walking past everybody and the rogue stealthing. Killing the big green boss on the way you get 3 small radiant shards. Then its 1 min run back and all over. About 8 runs now, without getting the dagger:(

Комментарий от 122109

Is it a low drop?????

Комментарий от Bonafide

Level requirement changed from 39 to 37 in patch 2.4.

Комментарий от Dvalin

These daggers are wicked to duel wield, and they proc a hell of a lot. One thing I have noticed is that the slowwing effect of the daggers is over written by crippling poison. I havent done any specific tests as yet but I've had my Mh dagger proc 3 - 4 times in some fights. plus they look really cool :)

Комментарий от 160540

is this weapon really good to duel wield on a sub speced rouge

Комментарий от 148723

I got this my second run (with a group) and i'm deciding whether i should enchant firey on this or vanquisher's sword. Anyone have any suggestions?

Комментарий от 91244

Definitely a great dagger for damage. But as a combat Rouge using a sword main-hand, the proc is less than expected. With this in my off-hand, it just doesn't hit often enough to proc much -- I get a proc maybe once every 3rd battle with mobs my level. And with Crippling Poison being just as powerful and much more guaranteed to proc (the two snares don't stack mind you), it's a bit of a waste for just a minute and nigh negligible damage boost every couple fights.

That said, it isn't a total waste. It's got great DPS and damage. If you happen to get it, stick with it: it's not easy to find an equivalent off-hand in the level range that's fast enough for poison applications. And it has helped me in the rare cases where Crippling Poison (in my off-hand) didn't proc when I needed it to, and this luckily filled that void. (Just don't get your hopes too high about the proc.)

Комментарий от Thottbot

There is an easy way to take her down . You need a hunter that has volley. Set 3 people to killing her, one for healing, and a hunter as far away as possible while still shooting her. if you are all 38+, by the time the henchmen start to become a problem she will be less than half life. At that time the hunter casts volley on them drawing all aggro (assuming no one attacked one). when they get to the hunter he fights them for as long as he can (should be at least 7-8 seconds) then feigns death. In the time it took them to go to the hunter, fight him, and go back to the lich, she will be dead.

Комментарий от Thottbot

We went in with four rogues, only had to fight a few things on the way but we had to run the place A LOT since we ALL wanted it. Kick, Kidney Shot and a pot-peri of poisons work very well to keep her from causing problems.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yeah i finally found out this was drop from rfd but kinda late. i went back when i was lvl 45 like 8 times. i finally had to beg a fellow rogue clanny to not roll and let me have it. I enchanted it w/ fiery and it's a blast. proc frequently enough and a great ofhand weapon. compliments my widomaker perfectly. i don't know how long i can keep it though. i might trade it for a thrash blade for off hand. but it's kinda slow and i am a dagger specializer. eh. i plan to replace it with a 36dps julie's dagger at lvl 50 any ways.. until then i'm gonna enjoy the great slow effects it give.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i went today with a level 57 rogue and lev 41. We stealthed the whole thing and came to her. Ive done this run 5 times before now and mostly robes of lich and deathmail thing dropped anyway...i have a picture of it...http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/535/untitled7hl.png

Комментарий от Thottbot

Chance on hit is an effect that procs on the hit of that weapon. Something like rogue poisons or shaman windfury. Everytime your weapon hits, you have a chance to do extra dmg/slow ur target (whatever the chance on hit tells it would).

Hope this helps ^^

One thing, i noticed that fiery enchants can proc when the weapon misses. Mabe ive seen it wrong since my rogue does whoe lotta dmg :P
I wonder if its true, and if it is the same is other chances on hits. Can someone confirm this?

thanxx0r

Комментарий от Thottbot

Is this dagger's drop rate good? I mean how many runs will it take so i can get dual of it for my rogue ? thanks

Комментарий от Thottbot

i got it the very first run i did it, then i ran it again and got it

Комментарий от Thottbot

try 2 weapons with better stats that are quest rewards

www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7076/субстанция-земли

Alliance
http://www.thotbott.com/?i=3934

For Horde

http://www.thotbott.com/?i=3934

then at lvl 46 get

http://www.thotbott.com/?i=38570

Nuff said

Комментарий от Thottbot

the dagger rocks i got 2 of them me and a lvl 59 rogue did it we killed her a good 9 time and got 2 of them but i say you will get 1 if you kill her a good 7 times. i say 14% of geting it 14% = 6to7 times

Комментарий от Thottbot

its annoying b/c i went 16 runs never got it, (they were fast stealth runs too) so it wasn't worth it getting little exp

Комментарий от Thottbot

this dagger dropped the first time i was in the instance.. i was a lvl 38 rogue.. and i didnt even know that he droppet it:P i was just happy he did :P

Комментарий от Thottbot

if coldrage dagger drops and a high lvl is taking u throo and ur a warrior u win and u dual wield it with vanquishers sword is that a better match then vanquishers sword than sword of omen

Комментарий от Thottbot

i can't believe no one has said anything about how much it procs? I got the dagger...and now im thinking about not useing it because i just picked up scouts blade and vanquisher's sword. Then again. IM dagger spec. so maybe i should duel weild daggers? My first rogue

Комментарий от Thottbot

I personally think this is a total rogue dagger. I'm not sure how exactly it's useful to a caster..no caster stats. x_x

Комментарий от Thottbot

hunter cant use that dagger no stats so it a rogue or warr wep

Комментарий от Thottbot

OK! PLEASE SOMEONE! i have wanted to do this forever and now that it is time im scared to go thru with it. i farmed this dagger until i got two of them (10runs nothing 11 and 12 both dropeed it XD) i wanted to put icy chants on em but now im not so sure if the procs will cancel each other. Will the chance to slow be more likely to proc with icy?>? HELP!

Комментарий от Thottbot

By the looks of it this dagger is mainly for subtelety speced rouges (by the looks of the screen shots):)

Комментарий от Thottbot

I have ran it 13 times! omg its so annoying every single time those stupid robes drop, i mean seriously 13 times its getting ridiculous.......

Комментарий от Thottbot

weird, i killed he guy and got some cloth gloves called "bonefingers" if i had knowed how rare they are i would have AH'ed it

Комментарий от Thottbot

is this weapon good for warriors

Комментарий от Thottbot

Is this dagger a unique equip?

Комментарий от Thottbot

i believe this dagger is excellent, i'm a lvl 52 rogue and i'm still using it, but unfortunately its about to be replaced by a Shadowfoot Stabber ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24222/протыкатель-тенеследа )

Комментарий от Thottbot

would this be a good duel weild weapon with black menace?

Комментарий от Thottbot

I have this weapon with Icy Chill (experimenting). Seemed to work fairly well, I did notice it procced quite often, however I sure can’t tell when the Icy Chill procs or when the weapon procs. Hehe…

I am a Subtley 39 twink rogue and I’m trying to decide wheter I should use Scout’s blade or Coldrage Dagger in my main hand (I have Nordic Longshank with 15 agi enchant on off hand). I am planning on enchanting whatever weapon I decide to use with 15 agility (expensive for me) so I want to get all the facts first.

What I have noticed is that the slightly lower DPS of the scouts blade is countered with the 8 agility providing you with 8 extra AP. On my character the DPS is equal wheter or not I select Coldrage or Scout’s Blade. So the only benefit the Scout’s blade provides over the Coldrage is a slightly higher crit chance (8 agility worth) and 30 ekstra HP. Is this preferable over the Coldrage proc?

The Scout’s blade is a slower main hand, but as I understand it Ambush (my most important attack) is no longer affected by this (can someone verify this?)

Комментарий от Thottbot

is this gager uniaue ?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

so I hit on a druid friend and came up with about a 1/8 proc, I grabbed 2 of these for viscidis, with frost oil you can get up to 1 frostbolt every 3 and 1/3rd seconds.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This dagger has also dropped from Doan in SM me and my buddy found it from him.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

anyone know the proc ratio... what does chance really mena?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

remember, coldbringer has very little hp but high dps. and this dagger on a rouge is very good in pvp, high dps for a one hand and a good rogue could easly get someone perma slowed. i lost a few duels with my lock cuz of this little number, even with sl, the slow+frost bolt dmg makes my strats go down the drain, lol. but as i tried you can get a better main-hand but this is one pretty nice off-hand cuz of high dps and the slow affect.
and word of advise for locks, againt a rouge with this use fh pernona and detect invis or you be pema slowed in like 3 secs.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

After 13 runs i finally got this bastard :], at least i have plenty of shards now though

Комментарий от Allakhazam

common u combine this dagger with slice n dice then u get Very nice dps :) would love dual weilding both of this in my rogue so I can get everyone freezed :)

ofmg im gonna be lvl 39 just to dual weild this then get to lvl 45 and get the embrace of the lycan or whatever, could wear helm of fire but i looove dps :) :)

PS: im an orc rogue, told ya loove dps :P
PS2: edited for getting a PS and changing item name, got confused :P

Edited, Mon Nov 7 18:39:01 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Finished instance for the first time with 2.5 bars left until Level 39 and this dagger dropped. Awesome. It's going main hand as soon as I level up.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I made sneak attakcs to ammenar together with two druids and a rogue. we farmed raggelsnout, glutoon and Ammenar for the dagger ;)

we were from lvl 40-42

takes less than 10 min sneak to the top.

Probably u can do it fewer then i suggest u use frost protection potions.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have this in my main hand and a Vorpal Dagger of the Monkey (for agi) in the off hand. This has better damage (if you include the proc) than the Vorpal and the Vorpal is 45 lvl (green). I'm 48 and I've had it since I could first use it at 39, when it dropped and the other rogue in the party already had 2. I'll keep this until I can find/afford something better.

Edited, Dec 6th 2006 4:34am by oblivione

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Could a lvl 47 rouge and a lvl 39 thake the mob where ever we had to camp?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

yeah i got it its soo cool

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is an offhand dagger, fast, and kinda weak.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

wooo

this dagger just dropped for me.

only rogue in group so i got it

i ran this so much for this dagger. so glad i can put rfd behind me :D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

A very nice dagger, dual weild it with something such as Black Mence and you have yourself a high-damage Rogue! Lovely for both PvE and PvP!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i ran this wit my 70 guildy freind and we ran it once it didnt drop we got kinda pssed and gave up and instead sum cloth that dropped is useless to all classes it was a grey no greens no bop no nothing just a gray i think bliz has sum weird glitch

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have a Scouts Blade (MH) and a sword of omen (OH) and my spec is Subtley so what should i do cuz i want to get this but Scouts blade is more powerful but slower

Warrybarry lvl 36 rogue Spinebreaker
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Pwn NOOBS!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Could a lvl 47 rouge and a lvl 39 thake the mob where ever we had to camp?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The first time we ran RFD it dropped. then i had to run it 10 more times before it dropped again last night :) the guild run Uld last night and i out dps a 45 rogue.. I'm lv 40.. If you are a dagg rogue take the time to get two.. I put +4 damg on both of them and will use them till lv 52

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Do you think that a lvl 60 Warlock could solo this instance?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I've gone through 5 times with my 56 Warrior buddy, and havn't gotten it yet. Got robes of the lich and the plate helm, w/e it is, a few times each. Just wondering though, could my warrior friend sneak through without aggroing everybody, or would he aggro anyone he went past?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Wonding if you could solo this guy as a 60 rogue: preparation spec.

I know that if you kill the Boos his Sirit Spawns die instantly... so double evasion can take em of you for a while.

Is it possible? or do i need backup

Can a 60 Druid solo it?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

everyone going to be pissed... im on Dark Iron server and ive run this instanc only 2 times! and it dropped for the the first.. the second i was tlkaing about it dropping agian and they were like..n o way its only 13% it will take forever.. when he dropped agian second run there jaws dropped... lol! oh well good luck for me there.. a few points.. sum1 said this is offhand not MH.. but if your lvl 39 theres not a better MH dagger period... ive looked trust me.. im staying at 39 to get my rep and honor up in PvP for a while.. so im duel weilding these with crusader on MH and 15 agility on off hand (pwnage!) RogueDrizzt, Elf on Dark Iron server

Комментарий от Allakhazam

But.. isn't the Swinetusk Shank better? For a rogue anyway.

I tend to believe that good stats outweigh good damage.
Persuade me otherwise. I'd really love o believe that this is better, cause it just dropped :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Picked up 2 of these babies last night. Took about 17 runs total. First one droped on my third try. Easy to sneak to the end.

Was 38 at the time, had 2 other lvl 60 rogues with me. We managed to pull off the first run with just me and one 60 rogue, but 2 made it insanely easy.

image url is below

Edited, Fri May 27 02:51:53 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ive been runnin this a number of times and its takin for effin ever i think ive run it maybe 4 times now with my lvl 61 hunter buddy what a crock most times the helmet dropped

Комментарий от Allakhazam

my friend is level 37, im going to run to the boss and ML the dagger to him. i found out i can get to the boss in 15 min on my 60 warrior and kill it easy.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i started running RFD when my rogue hit 37. after 9 or 10 runs, and shortly after my rogue hit 41, i finally saw the dagger drop for the first time. i was the only rogue in the group, so i needed and got it.

patience is the key. eventually the odds will catch up to you. keep running it, even though every time after the 3rd or so time that it doesn't drop is really disappointing (i would know).

i can finally retire from RFD satisfied. now i have to level up for MARA.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I ran RFD ounce and this dropped. Rolled need and I got it :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Where is this guy? And is he the last boss?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have question is this dagger better in main hand or vanquisher sword i am 40lvl fury warrior?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

tip for you rogues out there that may need this dagger: RFD is easily sneakable to Amnennar. Bring a 50+ rogue with you and you can camp this dagger with ease.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

very easy to get this dagger. got it on my first try. lvl 46 and lvl 58 rouges. just sneak to him and kill, very nice droprate to.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i'm thinkin' of getting both a scout's blade and a legionnaire's sword for my 39 rogue twink so he can switch off for fun, but would this dagger or vanquisher's sword be a better overall offhand? proc rate makes a huge difference, anyone know if it would proc much in offhand?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

man I must be the luckiest here...ran RFD for the first time and it dropped! Rolled Greed as I'm a warrior and didn't care either way, as did the rest of party (no rogues there)...love it, and use it all the time...(don't like the look of it though)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

got this last night with my friends level 60 druid - the 2 of us went off to the right and only had to kill minimal mobs to get to the boss- I was able to stealth past practically all.

We started off taking 25 mins but by the 4th time - we were able to get to the boss, kill and back out within 12-15 mins.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?607039

Looking forward to using it :)

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Edited, Sat Feb 11 11:08:07 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Could an Alliance rogue, lvl 41, and a 50+ rogue possibly get this dagger?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Best 30-39 dagger until you get WSG revered, then it's the 65 damage dagger from that. I'd just get Crusader on one of two and mabye fiery on the offhand until you get revered, then junk to OH and put crusader on the 65 damage dagger and vwala.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Had a level 60 warrior run me through at level 41. Only reason I went in was for this dagger and it dropped on the first try. Now dual weilding with Black Menace.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

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Edited, Mar 8th 2007 7:18pm by moshez

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I need the dagger im lvl 32 human rogue on skullcrusher help me if u can :)

staying at 39 for BG

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Don't know why you'd want to solo it, since the dagger is "binds when picked up", so if you're hoping on mailing it to a rogue alt, then.... you can't ^^.

And I'm pretty sure this instance is pretty un-soloable

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i got it when my friend asked a blizzard gm to un-delete his 48 shadow priest, so he got all his friends together to run instances so he can get his gear back, we ran RFD and downed amnenar and he dropped dagger, i won it on a greed roll on my 34 rogue (i was combat specced at the time, so i didnt care much for it, but i saved it since i knew i was gonna respec) and ive been using it since 47 (gonna replace it at 49 when i can equip the blue dagger princess drops) i love it, it procs really often

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