20 Attack Power on Black Baron is not enough to offset the extra agility, stamina, and dodge % of this cloak. I will take this over Black Baron any day.

I agree that the +1% dodge is a pretty crappy bonus for an epic with such a tall list of mats, but you can throw out the dodge bonus alltogether and this is STILL the best cloak out there for most Rogues.

I suppose I can understand a combat spec rogue going for Black Baron for the slight (VERY slight) damage bonus but personally I would rather have extra hits points, more agility, and a higher dodge chance than a negligible boost to damage.

My 2 GP

EDIT: More ramblings - I think people are getting too hung up on the fact that for an "Epic" this is only slightly to moderately better than Black Baron and other similar Blue cloaks. Remember, however, that this epic is CRAFTED so it does not require lucky dice or spending of DKP points to aquire. You only need to know someone who can make it (or be able to make it yourself) and have the patience to slowly gather the mats over time. The mats will definately take a while to farm, and yes the Skin of Shadow being BOP makes this a tough item to get if you can't make it yourself, but it wouldn't be an epic item if it wasn't at least a little difficult to acquire.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Where can i get this pattern..dont relli wanna spend 800g on the pattern! thats the price in Aggramar weneva it is up!
Where does it drop?

Комментарий от Thottbot

People here are arguiing about paying 800g for the pattern?

Ever heard about overpaying for something. Lets do it AH prices

30 rugged leather = 4g
12 essence of air= 90g
4 skin of shadow= binds when picked up so 20g
8 stones= 15g
8 rune thread= not worth naming :)
so prices are about 150g the hard way.....

and bidding starts at 400g! Maybe too expensive?

Btw im from sunstrider so those are mine AH prices. They tend to fluctuate a lot :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

a guildie said he will make this free if i bring him mats but i might as well just keep farming Baron for the Baron cloak since last time it dropped our group was retarded and didn't have ML on... but ever since then i run my own Baron groups and it all goes better

Комментарий от Thottbot

Hi! Im a lvl 60 hunter who is wondering whats best for my character. I go for max AP (or maxdmg in this case) and i wear the Black Dragonscale full set. Cape of the Black Baron provides +15agi and +20 AP, and Shfting Cloak gives me +8sta +17agi and 1%dodge... so... Is SC better or "the same" since if we calculate the dod bonus theres an increase in hitting with mongoose bite which provides 115 dmg so thats 115 PER SECOND. Can the mongoose bite compensate for the +20 attack power ? i dunno... maybe SC is good for (as I) u if u use alota AP then some sta and dod bonues will prob be good for your characters defense! Kinda to compensate. I dunno...kinda a dilema here... plz let me know...

Комментарий от Thottbot

Uhh, sure why not? I mean its expensive, definately. But, its comparable to Chromaggus's Elementium Threaded Cloak, atleast for a warrior. Do the math:

Elementium:
169 Armor
+13 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases your chance to dodge an attack by 2%.

Shifting Cloak:
48 Armor
+17 Agility
+8 Stamina
Requires Level 57
Equip: Increases your chance to dodge an attack by 1%.

When you do the math in other words, shifting is:

82 Armor
+8 Stamina
Requires Level 57
Equip: Increases your chance to dodge an attack by 1.85%.

It is expensive, but perfect for a tank beginning end game. And dont let any noobs tell you otherwise.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I read and hear people whining about the cost of this. This is definately cheaper and easy to make than Hide of the Wild. I make Hotw so when I decided to get one of these for my feral druid for PVP, I thought itd be some work. It's way easy. I had all the mats in one day.
Three manned scholo to rattlegore's room to get Skin of Shadow, three manned rattlegore and moved to the other rooms. Rogue, Druid, Hunter. Hunter died a few times trying to FD down but it was cake. (hunter was the one who could make it btw)
Deffinately worth it, considering it's cheaper to make than what people sell it for, opposed to the amounts of farming and cost for HOTW and the cheap asses in AH that wont pay for the work. :P

Комментарий от Thottbot

Um, this may be a really nooby question, but how can you get someone to make this for you when the Skin of Shadow is BoP - or is that you have to find the necessary person who has 4 Skin of Shadow and then pay a huge amount of cash?

Комментарий от Thottbot

To answer this question.

The crafter must supply the skins of shadow, which is where the crafting fee comes in.

Standard price per SOS is 50g, so crafting the cloak runs about 200g.

Since the cloak sells for about 600 on AH, farm all the materials, and the cloak only costs you 200.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Im wondering if anyone can tell me how much to put this up as i farmed some mats, but i dont know how much its worth and there none on the AH, If any1 wants to buy it on hellscream send a tell to Ferrosar

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Made it last night and selling off the first one so that a guildy can afford her epic mount. I am still farming mats so that I can wear the next one and she will get the one after that. Gee, only 4 more to make for all the rogues in the guild too, guess I got scholomance in my future for a while.

Yes mats are crazy, but not impossible to get by any means. We have been runnings scholo so much that I am heavily honored and my guildmate is revered with argent dawn.
Its easier to get an alchemist to convert the airs rather than farming them as the drop rates for airs are terrible. 2hrs and not a single one, 4 BoW, and 4 elemental airs was all I had to show for it (oh and a few crummy green text drops).

Edited, Fri May 6 11:13:59 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm going to farm my ass off until I get this pattern.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Bring me all the mats then i do 4 Scholo runs for the Skin Of Shadow. the scholo runs will be 25g each. so 100g and The mats and its Yours ;)

Edited, Fri Jul 1 08:55:22 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

For those who need to know: the CRAFTER runs Scholo 7 times per week, clearing Rattlegore's room on the way. He will build up a stack of Skin of Shadow, you bring the rest of the mats, he crafts it for you; you're not only paying for the service, but his time in farming Scholo for the Skins.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

From freeing the Golin.

After freeing him, he leaves a box of supplies behind that you can loot.

Ingredients to make this thing are insane!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Just got one in Twilight's hammer europe and it's a very decent non-instance (mc) cloak

Комментарий от Allakhazam

dropped for my guild in DM. we're keeping pattern in guild and never selling outside the guild. we'll just summon the leatherworker in scholo whenever we do runs for the mats if he can't come. we gave it to the officer that agreed to do lots of scholo runs so that it actually gets made, and gets made in guild.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got it made today, posting a pic of it later, but its gold trim, with grayish blue inner parts, and some gold-ish design on the top

- Vanusk of Stormrage server

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Why does Blizzard hate rogues so much? WHY? 24 runs through scholo to get my stupid hat - I hate scholo and scholo hates me... but now i must go back for an item i passed on every time... grrr

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Whats the name of the quest to free the golbin?

Edited, Sat Apr 9 13:18:00 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This cloak consistently sells for 500+ gold despite having stats equal to a high level blue. Yes the Black Baron Cape and even the Stoneskin Gargoyle Cape have VERY comparable stats. I'm counting the dodge bonus almost worthless, because it is. Warriors will crush you with overpower and for high end MC raiding if you have to be dodging that means you probably drew agro and are dead anyway :)

Both can be found in Strat (Baron side), do 10 runs and you will have gotten one or the other. To see what a real epic cloak should be, look up Cloak of the Shrouded Mists. The only nice thing about the Shifting cloak is, well, it looks pretty.

Edited, Sun Oct 23 05:42:27 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

looking for this item!

Zul'Jin server
Horde

Magnescerna is the name

Please contact me if you can make this

Комментарий от Allakhazam

You can gather all the materials (Stones and Essences)for this cloak in about 12-16 hours and it costs about 250 for the remaining common materials and paying for the time taken to get 4xSkin of Shadows. Obviously the gold is dependant on your LW but it looks badass.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

its surely not worth it. its to poor to be an epic if you ask me. just like the krol blade.

the cape of the black baron is way better

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'll get mine for my rogue for free

There's nothing better than having VERY good friends on your server :) (The same guy gave me a Pristine Hide of the Beast the other day because his rogue will wear Tier .5)

Thanks Braunbart!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

whoops double post :)

Edited, Tue Jun 28 18:09:00 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

bought mine for 400g from a guy.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Pattern acquired Horde side ... Character name Bulkathos if you wish me to make one for you, please send me an in-game email. Thank you.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anyone have any clue where to get this?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

any pics of this ?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Now to just get the pattern...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got it yesterday in DM. Still farming for the items, wonder how it looks.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Woot! Just got this today in the goblin chest in DM!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Epic recipe for elemental leatherworking.

Edited, Wed Mar 23 05:42:36 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Here ya go.
http://img80.exs.cx/img80/5634/shiftingcloak0pb.jpg

Комментарий от Allakhazam

also, what prices would you other LWs suggest for this? If i get all the mats the 30 rugged leather, the 8 guardian stones, naturally the 4 skins of shadow, the 12 essence of air, my cured rugged hides x4, and some thread, what would you charge? allah is 830 now, which I would charge and get I think no problem if I bought all the mats myself, which would make me about 600g give or take some. the only problem is buying the 12 essence of air as they are so freaking slow to drop and go for about 20g each

and its also just as important, what would you charge if they get all the mats but the Skins of Shadow? basically they are paying for me to run scholo 4 times, so what should I charge for that? 100? 150?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got a guy on the case.. Thx to him!
120 g :D

Edited, Thu Jan 12 14:31:15 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

120g for all mats. 20g for the Skin of Shadows farmer =)

140g all by all

w00t

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If your out there gold farming, reputation grinding or just solo'ing generally for one thing or another the last thing you wanna do it be potting up.

The 1% dodge doesn't seem fantastic on first view. However I'm a survival Hunter and I had to change from Beast Mastery to work better in groups (Chose Survival 31 // Marksman 20) and having more dodge is always a bonus when I go out to solo.

For an epic it isn't fantastic but if you're not into 40 man raiding and parties generally then this is one that is open to you. Always have to take it from the other mans shoes ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How can people supply mats if skin of shadows are BoP?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What dropped the recipe in DM for you? Is it from a chest you obtain after you kill a boss? If so which boss?

Edited, Fri Mar 25 01:37:31 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anyone else find it absurd that this takes a 1-per-instance BoP Ingredient? What am I supposed to do, tell the Elemental LW in my guild to go run scholo 4 times so he can make 1 cloak? Or am I supposed to take up Elemental LW myself to get it?

Hmm.. what other player-crafted tradeskill items take super rare BoP materials? Oh wait, this is the only one! Sigh.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Someone post a picture please hehe.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yeah...make it core leather...which would require a 40 man raid which many, if not most, guilds cant do themselves...That would suck much, MUCH worse. And if they removed the BoP from Skin of Shadow, they'd have to make it not a guarenteed drop..otherwise anyone could farm it all day. And i've seen 5 man groups farm the skin easily, if you know what you're doing.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Unless your getting it soley for the +dodge, you'd be better of getting the barons cape from stratholme which has better overall AP anyways

Комментарий от Allakhazam

bah looks like im never gonna have it ...few guys (aswell as me)are lvl 60 but we aint got raid or even brd's capabilitys:(....if ne1's goin to scholo gimme shout cause ive only got 1 piece of the wildheart set too:( <--probably the lammest druid in game(plz dont inspect me my items are poo)...:(

Комментарий от grofrobert

People should be aware that Шкура тени drops from Оживленный голем and Восставший костестраж 25% of the time. I you wanna sell this on AH or get a guild mate to make it for you just clear the Громоклин room to get a few extra drops. Should get 4 in 1-2 runs.

Комментарий от vlaka

This thing has never been advertised by crafters or listed on the Auction House on Yojamba.
Considering it's a server of try hard min maxers i'm amazed it hasn't shown up.

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