good for druids, just to let u know, suits bear form and cat form quite well, dodge for bear and cat form and AP for cat form, i know want u guys are gonna say, but AC isnt everything in bear form, dodge% is good too, as its the only means of damage mitigation. I know lava belt is good for tankin as it has high AC, but as i said, AC isnt everything :D, so id like to get this belt :D

Комментарий от Thottbot

No doubt it's good for a combat rogue. Question is, why take this belt from Firemaw when you just downed Vael (2 bosses before) who drops your epic set Bloodfang belt? No reason for a rogue to take this over a feral druid unless he really, really wants it for some reason. Druids don't have any good non-resto sets so it'd be nice for a druid to have.

Also, everyone who says feral druids aren't in MC and BWL are frickin morons. The guild in our server that first downed nefarion had 3 feral druids. I'm a feral druid and I off-tank in MC and ZG all the time. Learn2play.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i would prfer this belt before BF. 60 AP is AWESOME ! AP>crit...

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok. This belt, is the only item I could 100% say is fair game between FERAL druids and Rogues. This belt is just sick. And because the stats on it are much higher, its hard to beat. Infact, its impossible for a Rogue or Feral druid to get better than this. Nothing better exists.

As for hunters, &*!@ you. You the atk power? Lava belt, 28 agility, 4 less atk power than this, but more stamina. As if your dragonstalker #$%^ wasnt way over powered.

Комментарий от Thottbot

There is a better druid belt in AQ40:

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=52898

That said, this one is a nice druid belt if you are not into AQ40 yet.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I play a rogue and I would give this to a FERAL druid before I took it myself. Rogues in BWL are collecting bloodfang(for the most part). Feral druids have no set, tier 1/2/3 are for resto/balanced druids.

So let your local feral druid have some love. <3

~SuperKenny of stonemaul.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i NEED to see how the whole set looks like!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Did anyone notice, the number for this item is 666? 0.o

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This looks like a PvP belt yet it has dodge % therefore screwing the rogue over vs warriors.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well I believe that everyone in a raid has a job to do, and its everyones goal to make his job better.
I assume u all will agree that rogues will benefit from these on doing damage, i also think that druids will not benefit from this on doing healings.
(i ve never seen a feral druid on any raid tanking or making dps or be in cat-bear form at all)

SO? why u arguing?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Guys for strait up feral dps Пояс Сохраненных Голов is arguably better. It has +hit on it and also +0,75% crit chance extra. This belt gives about 47-48 AP (haven't done the exact math). So you lose about 12 AP but gain crit and +1 to hit. I.m.o thats more valuable for a higher dps. Taut Dragonhide Belt is however best for tanking!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

this belt is overrated by ferals. for cat form DPS the belt of preserved heads from ZG is far superior.

This belt:

125 armor
17 stam
60 AP
1% dodge

Belt of Preserved Heads:

108 armor
11 stam
~48.6 AP
1% hit
.75% crit
.75% dodge

The only clear upgrade for cat form DPS is the belt of never-ending agony from C'thun.

For tanking this is not a bad option, but if you can get this far in BWL you can easily do the first few bosses of AQ40 and you can get a thick qirajihide belt from Sartura which is the best bear tank belt in the game.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

noone's ever said a druid cant roll it, but as stated below, the belt will be more beneficient in the hands of a rogue.. And if you've killed him once, you can always kill him again ;)

Tho I'd definitely like to see this on my druid..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Taut dragonhide items are all for druids , just check out the others and then shut it :)

This would be the best for a druid clearly as rogues have their set and druids don't have any other decend choices for feral belts.

If a rogue gets this , i'm going to cry.

This belt is good for both catform dmg & its the best tanking belt ingame for druids.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Finally a high end belt that doesnt sheepishly give +crit. Lovely for a combat rogue, equally lovely for a feral specced druid.

The +1 dodge is a pain against warriors, but you shouldnt be letting them actually hit you all that much anyway, and +1 dodge is only 1 overpower crit every 100 possible strikes.....

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got this last night from Ebonroc and I'm a rogue. We actually had another one drop off of Flamegor that went to another rogue:) Our raid leader is smart and awards items (based on DKP) on how it'd best help the raid.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Druids and rogues both benefit from this belt greatly. Obviously the rogue will get way more damage out of this than a feral druid. Rogue belt!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This belt is great for rogues and druids. Who deserves it? That's between you, your DKP and your guild leader.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

For a feral druid? Nah.......combat roguess all the way. I currently have 896 AP unbuffed and would jump on this over the Bloodfang belt anyday. Feral Druids should have to wait.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This drops only about twice a year and should go into the arsenal of druids.

Druids have no real alternative, rogues have plenty.

If the druids are not allowed to get this, they should secretly let the rogues (and the lootmaster, guild leader) die at trash mobs and easy boss encounters...as often as possible.

Or do an open strike for their rights.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yet another rogue saying that druids don't "deserve" to get this kind of loot.

It's real simple. If you can use the item, it is an upgrade and you have the DKP you have the right to bid on this item. Rogues just get tetchy that there is another class that has interest in the same items as they do, hunters do as well to an extent. You're just going to have to live with it. It is just like Warriors and Pallys or Mages and Warlocks sometimes have competing interests in an item.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Much better for a rogue then for a druid ^^I give up

Комментарий от Allakhazam

These bad boys droped not only once but twice on our BWL raid yesterday. Me and another feral druid got em. Nice tanking stats for bear and good damage for holding aggro or going catform. in our raidgroups 4 druids and 3 rogues have this item so it's pretty even.

Edited, Mon May 8 07:48:54 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Feral druids are a mix of classes, support tank, melee dps and support caster/healer. Rogues are just melee dps. By that logic this belt will be used 3 times as much by a rogue as a feral druid.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if only that was 1% crit :(

Комментарий от Allakhazam

No it's not a druid belt moron.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

finaly this made my >1000 ap unbuffed possibile.. now just the decition dagger <=> sword....

Комментарий от Allakhazam

As a Dodge Setup spec Rogue, I can say this is the best belt for it. I am currently at 97% dodge if you include +15% from Ghostly Strike and 50% from Eva. Tanking Rogue FTW XD

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm gonna get this belt on my druid, don't care what the rogues say, it's a fantastic belt, and there is no equivalent of SIMILAR standards for a druid, so a feral specced druid has JUST as much right to it as a rogue.

Edited, Thu May 25 03:29:20 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

nightslayer belt has 17ag which is almost 1% dodge..lol if you don't want dodge you are a noob.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

the fact that its an epic feral belt and rogues have other options, feral druids are allowed to roll on this. We all play this game to improve our toons ffs. :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

WTB

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Very nice the amount of Druid loot in BWL. GJ to blizz there.
And people saying that it's rogue loot clearly havent played the raid-instances and KNOW that there are MUCh better belts allready like NS or bloodfang ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I will use this rather than Bloodfang or Nightslayer belt (current) once I get my hands on it. I'm a combat rogue almost fully NS kitted now. In the end it's AP > all in my book. It's sheer increase in damage output and that's what we do as rogues.

Surely it's fine for druid feral gear, but the thing is that in my guild all loot is distributed to gain maximum PvE raid performance from it. Feral or PvP needs is secondary, thank god. If our druids want to go feral they first quit the guild, then go PvP.

Once every rogue who need these +ap bits has em, druids can go ahead and spend their dkp on it.

And to you who say it sucks in PvP, well i dont pvp. All i do is maximum damage output in raids.

Edited, Mon Dec 5 09:36:36 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I did a few calculations on this belt compared to BF belt. Here's what i came up with:

(these calculations are for rogues only)

Taut Dragonhide Belt adds:
170 HP
60 AP
1% dodge

Bloodfang Belt adds:
150 HP
33 AP
20/14,5=1,38 Dodge
1+20/29=1,69 crit chance
10 Shadow resistance

I used the formulas from Wiwwiki

Now the base damage is a bit lower when using BF, but I do believe that the 1,69 extra crit chance will make up for this in the end, since rogues with access to the two belts will have some epic high DPS weapons as well.

And please don't start whining over the 20 HP.

I would definately call this a Feral druid belt.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

nice druid belt

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It`s Feral druid belt, rogues who think they are only ones who can have leather ap equip. Feral druid don`t have set like rogues and when some leather have str/sta/ap/crit (and no agi, that means "for feral druids" too) its for feral druids coz rogue can choose between two set epic belts (and when u think about set bonuses too they are better and easiest to get than this one) but this is only one epic belt for feral druid.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Dodge vs warr?
Nubs, you rather eat hamstring and ms than overpower? pff you are nuts
Dodge is good vs everything but casters.

This belt is neat for dagger rogues, I pick this over nightslayer and bloodfang cuz crit for a daggerrogue isnt that important. 54% or 55% chance to crit not much of a difference.

What is wierd is the name of the item, druid pvpset have same name "dragonhide".

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