well, I found this enchant to be a bad one for pvp/pve mostly because stamina is a cheap stat (the gem rate value is 12 stamina=9spd/8int/8agi/16ap/8DR) so basicly, the 12in is better for casters for pvp(if your oom your as dead as your with 0hp) 12str for warriors and 24ap for rogues/hunters is better too. for tanking I would take the 12DR and for pve casters I would go for the 15 spelldamge
all give you much more expensive stats then stamina in less cost (all but the spelldamge, but pve costs lots of gold)

Комментарий от curley

Although the stats are undercosted as compared to an enchant like spellpower, the stats arent linear. For example, the higher stamina you get, the harder it is to get more. 8000 - 10000 may be easy but 10000 - 12000 would be much more difficult. The level of gear the player is using also has to be taken into account. The balance of stats has to be taken into account. To say that X Y and Z enchant is better is a falacy since you cannot say with 100% certainty that the enchant you use will be best for everyone.

From my perspective as a mage the 2 premier stats in pvp are Resilience and Stamina. Spell damage and intellect are more easily picked up on other slots at a much lower cost and are valued less to me as compared to survival tools. As I stated above stamina is harder to get at higher levels so in my pvp bracers I tend to run the hybrid steady talasite and the 12stam enchant.

Комментарий от clavarnway

Can we please move discussion for the Enchant away from this thread. This is for discussion of the Formula to learn the Enchant...some actually want to come here to see how often it drops in practice, since drop rates on these types of items are skewed on Wowhead.

Комментарий от 100775

is it better to put this enchant or the enchant that gives bonus healing for pvp resto druid?

Комментарий от 131642

Dropped for me in SV normal, had 3 other enchanters in my party, luckly I won it :P

Комментарий от baconbaconbacon

you can be lvl 1 if u want (in enchanting) it drops if you got the profession.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

where where where?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This dropped my first run, two enchanters in group but I rolled need and the other greed. Obviously I won. I'm not sure if he already had it or didn't notice it was BOP? Well, I won it.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I believe this drops in Steamvaults. I saw a BOP enchant to bracers drop there but me not being an enchanter, I didn't pay too close attention to it. Althou I do believe that this was the plan I saw drop. Droped early in the instance too, I think it drops off of one of the Naga.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

lol lol lol!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Dropped from trash mobs in Steamvault.

Illidan/Horde

Комментарий от Thottbot

in a normal run youll prob only see about 10 oracles

Комментарий от Thottbot

it's a higher drop rate than what stated above, since only enchanters can see it drop. so if it isn't an enchanter in you group, it won't be shown. and if it drops and it is an enchanter in the group, only the enchanter can roll on it

Комментарий от Thottbot

Pff, i have running this instance for ages now, never seen it drop...

Am exalted for months now

Комментарий от awakez

unbelievable, some people actually get this on their first run on lvl 68 or whatever, i've already been exalted for more than a month, doing this as often as i can, yet to see this piece of ^&*! drop, f...in rng, while we're at it, same exact story with the one from mana tombs.. ffs!

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