As someone who uses Terokk's Quill at the moment, i would much rather have the Reaper, the agility from what i could tell does not really make up for the lack of AP on it. You could add an effective extra 36 AP to the Reaper with Bold Blood Garnets...not to mention the Reaper makes for bigger hits anyways :P

And if you fill up those slots, you've scored yourself another 6 stamina over the Quill...My quill is getting vendored as soon as i get one of the REAL level 70 2handers (Plasma Rat's Hyper Scythe, Crow Wing Reaper, Reaver of the Infinites...)

Комментарий от 21874

This is such a great axe. I've been fury spec from the beginning but when I won this during my first run of Sethekk halls, I quickly spec'd to Arms. Because of it's base stats and socketing capabilities this Axe will easily last you thought level 70. I also added a Savagery enchant to it for harder hits. Anyway, totally worth the effort to pick up.

The only axe I think is better (with enchanting/jewel socketing in mind) is the Gladiator's Decapitator, just because of it's hefty equip stats.

Комментарий от 23278

So I was invited to Sethekk Halls w/ my guild. It was Myself (69 Tank), 3 70 Locks and a 66 Priest. We downed Ikiss and this and the Ravenclaw Band dropped. Needless to say, being the only melee, I got both drops. Mad props to my guildies, this Axe is sick. I slapped a +12 AP, +3 str;+4 Stam and a +8 agi gem in the 3 gem slots and it's a pain bringer. It owns face, right now...it allows me, at 69, to take on 3 to 5 lvl 70 mobs at once without having to bandage. That makes it easier to farm and grind.

Bottom line, anyone that is melee should have one...this axe is a facerocker.

that is all.

Комментарий от 31519

Wicked Axe!

2 Sethekk runs, Terok's night mace on the 1st one, this on the second <3

lol

TY blizz!

Комментарий от Collypso

I had the Crystalforged Waraxe already picked out and in my inventory when this thing dropped, I was sad to get rid of my axe but since this one is way better I did.

I socketed it with 3 Delicate Blood Garnets since its missing alot of agility needed for a DPS warrior like me.

Комментарий от 40449

I see two points in using this nice 2x-axe.

The one is for PvE 2h build ,Ms/flurry for example (the build aint completly PvE ,but it gets huge dmg with Nice 2h and shaman in grp) smthing like this https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/talent=pG0xbAioM0zZE0zmMxRV

I would recommend putting 3x 16 Ap gems ,if U are lacking crit overall in gear (hard to belive with axe spec ,tho happens) go for Shifting Nightseye x3

The other is for PvP arena build ,where your choise is again between Shifting Nightseye and Sovereign Nightseye,I would definitly socket with one of those two,since the axe
-15 stamina compared to the Honed Voidaxe (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25762) and every1 knows how important is stamina in PvP

By looking at it again and again ,I think its the best 2h in normal 5man ;)

Комментарий от 51413

Heres how i see it layed out as a 70 MS warrior:

my favorite out of these, and what i'm currently using, is
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28253#M0z

it has a slower attack speed, pumping out higher dmg on MS and whirlwind (if you go berserker stance)
along wit the direct crit rating and basic war stats i just find it the most useful out of them. its also a easy drop from a easier instance (from First boss of mechanar) its not amazingly hard too grab.

second, everyone's favorite, the Crystalforged war axe.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31291

Meh, i bought this for 69, and found it pretty useless. the dps is lower then most of the other weapons i had laying around. while the stats are nice (80 AP for sure) i don't think the damage is worth it in the end. Save the money and spend it on the flying mount you'll need next level.

last is the crow wing ripper, from Sethekk halls.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27986#M0z

This is the only one of these i have'nt gotten, it drops from the last boss of sethekk halls. while the instance is short, the drop rate on this thing gets on my nerves after awhile. I don't think this is worth running sethekk halls for, considering theres the polearm from mech at a better drop rate. it has lower end MS damage due too lower attack speed, and no direct + crit rating. while the red sockets are nice, i don't think its worth running then buying gems for.

some runner ups are https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29329#M0z
which has low dmg with higher attack speed, but you might end up sing it at 66 since its free from a quest.

also noteworthy,
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27903
A nice weapon too have, but pass it too a hunter if theres one in the party. like the quill its more hunter loot, agi stam and some other neat things on there for em. but its solid MS dmg and the stats could help. likely the hardest one of all these too get, being from the last boss of shadow labyrinth.

hope this all helped any indecsive warriors, and know that most of these are arguable, this just being mah opinion.

Комментарий от Strye

Just a small note on the graphic.

It's not just a glow- it's a swirling blue twisting one. :)
Pretty sweet.

The gem slots do kill the item points compared to, let's say, a Honed Voidaxe, which gets a total of100+ in stats.

So, it's quite redundant- at 68 you can hit 70 in a day or two and then get a new weapon- wasting the gems you put in this baby to make this anywhere competitive in stats.
The only thing not cool about it.

Комментарий от 28077

Well let me ask u this?.

does every1 70 WANT..to get bs up?

do they WANT to spend hrs, and GOLD.. buying mats?

Do they WANT to get the mats for the axe?

-------

All in all..id rather go to setthik a few times and get this rather then spend countless, gold and time lving bs up, then go get mats for the axe, then make it

Комментарий от 28077

Got it today.

This weapon is a beast!!! hits really hard!!!

And the sockets mean that u can coustomize it to your liking no matter what class you are. Warrior, hunter, pally, shammy , its a great addition to any class beacuse of its sockets.

i decked mine out in + crit gems. Hits hard..

well worth the effort put in 4 setthik runs to attain this.

Комментарий от shiftychance

What is better? This axe or the Plasma Rat's Hyper-Scythe https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28253 ? I have both of them (currently using Crow Wing Reaper) but when I equip the Hyper-Scythe I lose AP, Crit, and Armor and the only thing I could see better about using the Hyper-Scythe is that it hits harder.

Комментарий от 63996

As a holy spec pally I plan on trying to get this for myself for soloing and questing. I think with a +30 int enchant and 3 https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24029 (Teardrop living rubies.. +18 healing and +6 spell damage), this thing would be pretty sick for sure. Until i found something better to use while soloing.

Комментарий от amautor

Ret pallies might want to look at Warmaul of Infused Light https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28393, as is has a higher top end damage and higher crit rating for vengeance to proc.

Комментарий от mmpedersen

It has the same dps as a lvl 70 wep! IT'S UBER! I hope to get it on my enhancement (17/42/0) shammy veeery soon

Комментарий от 118126

This weapon is nice for MS warrior. I replaced my Halaani Claymore with this baby.

Комментарий от 146799

I would just like to point out this axe would be pretty good for a an enhancement shaman because it has enough time for the 3 sec WF CD and has three red sockets which you can put +str gems (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23095)
or AP gems (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28595)
also it you wanted extra crit you could put in (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=23098)

Комментарий от pinkerton

2H weapons are strictly inferior for PvE DPS situations. Talents and mechanics of shaman DPS at lvl 70 are built around DW. 9% +Hit while DWing through a 0/42/19 build allows all special attacks to be hit capped through talents alone, while a 2H will only receive 3% of the hit benefit. DW also scales better with AP. 2h effectively gains (1.0 * 0.95 hit rate) = 0.95 from AP and DW gains (1.5 * 0.74 hit rate) = 1.11 from AP. The more +hit you have (until we reach cap) the greater the difference between the two is. At a certain point (easily reached when raid buffed), this difference in gain from AP will outweigh the bonus base DPS of a 2H weapon over similar ilevel 1H weapons.

The second largest benefit you bring to your group is Unleashed Rage, and your Flurry and UR uptime will take a large hit from using a 2H, as strings of dodge/miss/non crits become compounded by a single, slower swing time. Threat concerns are even more problematic with a 2H because of large WF procs, requiring that you heavily pad your threat against a tank.

And finally, as mentioned in the Windfury Proc section, DW with WF on both weapons results in an increased chance to proc WF off either hand (36%). 2H weapons will not benefit from that increased proc rate.

-EJ thread regarding enhance shammys

Комментарий от chilargar

i got lucky this dropped from my first run ever in sethekk, and its helped a ton along with the boots from the first boss and greaves of desolation, i like it because it gives off a fair amount of damage, which is a pretty good deal for a hunter.....

Комментарий от Allakhazam

speed would be better of as 3.6+, stats are kinda low but the 3 sockets make up for it.. decent overall.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So I was invited to Sethekk Halls w/ my guild. It was Myself (69 Tank), 3 70 Locks and a 66 Priest. We downed Ikiss and this and the Ravenclaw Band dropped. Needless to say, being the only melee, I got both drops. Mad props to my guildies, this Axe is sick. I slapped a +12 AP, +3 str;+4 Stam and a +8 agi gem in the 3 gem slots and it's a pain bringer. It owns face, right now...it allows me to take on 3 mobs at once without having to bandage. That makes it easier to farm and grind.

Bottom line, anyone that is melee should have one...this axe is a facerocker.

that is all.

Edited, Feb 19th 2007 11:32am by Trankk

Комментарий от Allakhazam

omg 3 sockets! pwnzd

Комментарий от Allakhazam

<another first SS>

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r69/venombrasil/Venomweb2.jpg

Nice!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Taked this axe at my first run there ! As lvl 70 orc war isn't nothing special anyway nice skin xD ! ( first boss dropped mail boot )

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Nice weapon. Got it on my first run.

Edited, Jun 10th 2007 3:54am by lornierd

Комментарий от Allakhazam

could someone plz explain to me how AP and strength work? i know strength gives you AP and Armor. I just got this weapon and im still deciding what gems to put in this weapon. I got the +20strength enchant and now i see Red gems that gives you +12AP and gems that gives you +8 strength. Which is better and how do you calculate strength to AP? i dont know if that makes sense coz im confusing myself.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

increase the droprate please :P 16 runs no axe

edit-- 18 runs still no axe:P

Edited, Feb 15th 2007 6:09am by Rujiji

Комментарий от Allakhazam

66 0/36/21 shammy right now. I go 2 handed. Right now with Honed Voidaxe my windfurry adds up to about 1450+ in damage without crits put crits in there and I got up to 3400+ with my last axe when everything critted. Practically one hit quishies. Getting a windfurry with a one haded weapon just seems like I'm getting jipped. Looking forward to this axe and in my opinion Dual Wielding shammy's just aren't worth the talent points.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

3 red socket with 8 str each in them (Don Rodrigo's Heart) makes this a kick ass weapon. Nice upgrade from Voidaxe.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So my 2nd run through this instance this axe drops. Real nice with the socket bonus and everything. Everyone in the group said gratz to me. Well, this Shaman decides to roll on the weapon as well. Needless to say we tied at Need-14, and he won. He's lvl 70, I'm 69 warrior. After he won the roll, everyone in this PUG "WTF'd" this guy. I think Shaman are beastly now that they can Duel Wield. Just my Opinion.

What do you think? Who should have received the axe? He's Enhancement, and I'm Arms/Fury hybrid built for PvP. I guess I just thought I would ask. The roll determines who gets it right? Hmm..I just know that in my guild, that never would have happened. Oh well, I guess running Sethekk Halls til it drops can't hurt me. I'm at 500k xp right now, so it will be a good grind for something I want.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Nice axe, level 68 blue that has the same dps as level 70 blues! Great if you can pick it up at 68 and get some mileage out of it by leveling with it.

Edited, Sep 4th 2007 11:24am by Makenzie

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm a 70 ret paly who stayed at 69 and pwn'd with this until i had enough honor to level up to 70 and buy my full gladiator suit. This puppy worked very well. Damage is very great ecspecially if you have a high crit rate, not to mention you can slot it too! I strongly recommend to use this weapon for your duration until you hit 70, not to mention it looks pretty decent. Enjoy it, I know I did.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got this last night, on my first SH run. Pretty nice.
What is best for me to use as sockets, 69 Warrior.
3 times +8 Agility,
3 times +12 Stamina or
3 times +8 Strength ?

I also got +Defence sockets, but thats no need on a solo two-hander...is it?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Which is better for a 69 arms/fury warrior - this or the Crystalforged War Axe?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It was my 8th run through Sethekk Halls and we brought along a 69 Pally, it was her first run. The axe drops of the last boss. i was about to need it then she says i can't see the loot menu. so i existed out of the loot menu so wecan roll manually, as soon as i exist out of the loot menu she rolls needs on it and hearths. How gay was that!

Wished there was a ninja watcher to ban all the ppl who ninjas gear.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I had a great run last night. I was there for the first time as a lvl 67 warrior (tanking) and i got the axe from Ikiss. I also got the bracers from Syth:

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=58688

Now i just have to get to level 68 to be able to use it :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

For the 3 red slots and a warrior what would be better. you can add 3 +8 Agility Ruby's or 3 +16 dmage ones. I am mainly speced as a MS warrior any advice would be helpful.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well, in my opinion the Crow wing reaper is as big of a step up from the honed voidaxe, as the voidaxe is from the hellreaver. Plus it has sockets like neither of those other weapons have.

The Crow wing reaper should last you at least a level if not longer.

Комментарий от Thottbot

u shouldnt need this over a warrior its like a warrior needing a good ranged wep over u

Комментарий от Thottbot

There shouldnt be any fight between wars and hunters on this...

No doubt a great weapon for any dps war/pally...

Hunters, you get this (link below) off of the quest in this very instance, and blizz clearly made it with you in mind-

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29329/перо-терокка

that is 54 AP to you plus all that agility, leave the axe for the melee classes and take the polearm.

Комментарий от Thottbot

"Paladins: Yeah, good for you, but if you got this, and you're planning to end-game, screw it, pass it to the PVPers, you won't need this as your going healer anyway. If nobody needs it, congrats on your axe."

Not necessarily: it's still good for soloing things if you're holy / protection-spec, and believe it or not Retribution does have a role in end-game raiding (just not a big one), so anything to improve your DPS is a good thing.

Комментарий от Thottbot

unless you respecced... you cant get MS and BT, explain yourself

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am a MS warrior with DEATHWISH...that is possible but Bloodthirst is not possible.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Awesome Weapon.. got it like 5 mins ago hehe! A Pally and I both said we would roll need before we began the instance.. fortunately i won! Any Recommendations on what Red gems to put ?

Комментарий от Thottbot

i actually have this weapon, i heard it was the best pre heroic wep, and it fills all the areas MS spec wars need to do good dps, and because of the three sockets you can add crit rating to it, but i'm either debating on keeping this one, or going after plasma rat's in mech, which is better, 27 crit rating or 17 agil? i heard from someone on Dragonmaw that for war its 2 agil= .01 crit rating, so like if you added 2 agility it would go from like say 23.45 to 23.46, is this correct? and is the plasma rat's worth the hassle to get

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm Retri-Paladin and I'd choose this over Oathkeeper. Sockets and nicer melee stats.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Whats better this or terroks quill? if this had all 12+ ap gems

Комментарий от Thottbot

It looks WICKED!

and have great warrior stats.
hate when hunters need on every single weap with with only some of their stats.

Комментарий от Thottbot

No, this is not a hunter weapon.

I won this on my hunter, because nobody else wanted it and it was a greed roll.

And yes, i vendored it. d'you know why? because the stats of this are:

17 agi
33 stamina
3 red sockets

vs. the quill's

54 agi
33 stamina

Ask yourself, are 3 red sockets worth losing 37 agility COME ON even with hyjal gems you're not going to make up 37 agi with 3 red gems.

Oh i'm sorry, as i actually know how to play a hunter, i didn't notice the strength on this weapon...and neither should any hunter, because as a hunter str = entirely unused. You can count it as nothing

Just my 2 cents, vendor this, DE it, or let a shaman/warrior/pally get it. But whatever the hell you do, don't use this because if you've managed to get this without getting the quill then you're a bloody legend cos the quest giver is outside the instance

Комментарий от Thottbot

Very good weapaon for warriors. Dropped for my party tonight and of course a noob hunter needed on it and won it even if he was going to get the polearrm from the Quest, just the time to deliver the Quest he had completed. Bah.

Definitely Warrior Item.

Комментарий от Thottbot

nice axe, dropped yesterday, i wanted to need cuz it looks sweet but imma hunter and the shammy needed it more than me. oh well. and the other shammy outrolled me on ravenclaw band >.< again oh well

Комментарий от Thottbot

hunters dont get this unless nobody else wants it u got the sonic spear and teroks quill instead. i have the crystalforged waraxe on mine for the crit strike rating so any of these weps are good but for the love of god dont take this unless no1 else wants it

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok, this is a very good weap but if its not dropping dont waste your time! go get the plasma rat's one from mechanar! Very good polearm. Got it on my Warrior and i destroy stuff..

Комментарий от Thottbot

Did Sethekk last night on my 65 prot warrior and got this from Ikiss. We ran the instance with two tanks, oddly enough. Me and a 70. The 70 didn't want it since there are better options available to him. Now I have three levels to decide if I want to respec arms and pvp with this wicked axe for a while!

Question for anyone else who has used it: What's the next upgrade? Is it from a heroic? Or one of the pvp weaps avaible for marks and honor?

Комментарий от Thottbot

give me the polearm quest reward for my hunter, not a warrior type of weapen, thats better for a shard and the money for flying mount but thats what i think

Комментарий от Thottbot

This should never even be a real upgrade for a hunter. At most it would just be a toy. The quest for Terrok's Quill is found at the entrance to this instance and if you see this axe drop you've cleared the instance and have the Quill. great Polearm until you get Sonic Spear.

So note to all hunters, pass unless no one wants it.

Phatchicken
70 Hunter

Комментарий от Thottbot

Its not the worst hunter wep i mean i am going to farm Honor at 69 get 35 agility and agility sockets and there ya go..not the best but it would be ok

Комментарий от Thottbot

So any thoughts on an enhance shaman using this? maybe put some +Str gems in it?

Комментарий от Thottbot

i was in AB the other day and a samman hit me with one 231 the first hit. I dont know his spec.. but he sure didnt hit me high at all

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