Just picked these up after our first Kael'thas kill. Currently have Skulker's Greaves on with +hit gems. Spreadsheet shows a measly +5dps upgrade, so it's a sidegrade at most. It depends heavily I suppose on mixing and matching. ATM, I have a huge surplus of +hit, so throwing off some for more AP and crit would be good to balance things out.

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How come these are worse than the deathmantle leggings but a lot harder to get? Isn't phase 3 of the kael'thas fight equal to the entire karathress fight?

Комментарий от Ghoselle

These are incredible for Feral druids for cat dps. Arguably the second best feral pants after T6 and notable upgrade over T5. And the lack of hit rating is much less of an issue for a feral than for a rogue. 3.5% crit, 138 AP.

Комментарий от 14992

As a survival hunter i would definetely pick up these if none of the rogues want em

Комментарий от Rainfall

These pants' appearanse seems to be the recolored version of Deathmantle Legguards (Rogue Tier 5)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Looks like it drops off Kael'thas Sunstrider in The Eye.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Some nice legs! any idea where they drop?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

WHERE!

Комментарий от Thottbot

rogues all the way for this

Комментарий от Thottbot

Kael'thas. Decently high drop rate.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The kid may be a moron, but he is very correct.

These are Rogue pants, simple as can be. Druids can benefit from them, but no. It's a Rogue item. No Strength = No Druid, go for something else more druid like, like Heavy Clefthoof LOL.

Noob Ferals FTL.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You know feral druids are more worthwhile than any rogue anyway. As a guild leader I would rather gear up my ferals because they can battle rez, innervate and off heal and off tank. Keep your ferals happy your raid works well.

On a side note... I noticed that the ONLY reason feral druids lose to rogues in DPS meters is because of LoTP if it was a druid only deal....
Rogues wouldnt have a place in WoW except pvp.

And yes that feral druid was wrong. Rogues get 1ap per 1 str and 1 ap per 1 agi. Either way these legs work well for both considering 92ap is roughly about 44-46 str for a druid. So either way... Welcome to BC rogues aren't the only DPS leather wearers in your guild anymore..... Get used to it or quit playing.

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actually... you just proved yourself wrong. Imp LotP heals when the rogue crits... not when the druid crits. Give me more crit so I can heal myself please... but srsly, thats a dumb reason to give out loot. Give this item to one or the other... if you are good enough to down KT.. you will beat him again. The others can get their shot.

I personally don't like the legs due to their lack of +hit. May be another argument for a drood to get them. Regardless, grats to those that get them, those that haven't/won't down KT... bluntly, no one cares what you think.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Rogues only beat druids in DPS because of LoTP?

5% crit isnt gonna make or break a class.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Wow, great to know so many rogues love droods after the expansion. I'm not saying that I know everything, but I do know we are working on Gruul's lair now and we farm Kara and avoid rogues at all cost, my guild calls this feral drood gear cuz rogues bring nothing but dps to raids. This is a sad but true statement, saps aren't near as useful as sheeps and shackles now and range dps is better. If I need to on my drood I'll switch to tanking or healing, but as long as thats covered droods are dpsing. PS Thought rogues were nice before burning crusade, but we win now :o(.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i got them pants Skullker Greaves with (3) 8 Hit rating gems, with 50ap and 12crit leg enchant. will these pants be better? don't seem right when i don't see any hit rating.

Комментарий от Thottbot

here is the point:
for a rogue, T5>this one
for a dps drood, this one >T5
feral T4/T5 are mostly focused on tanking (T6 too but it is so powerful thanks to set bonus)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Actually, these leggings are better than t5 leggings by about a 4 DPS output difference. And if you are good enough to be downing this guy you should be at hit cap anyway.

Комментарий от Thottbot

what happend to evasion tanks /cry "rogues cant tank" ... well.....its true we cant. but we honestly shouldent have to. i dont see my self getting these in the near future, my computer recently started crashing alot.. not gonna hinder guild by getting DC'd every other min. anyways. Druids. pls. ur heals are OP. love the balance dps like some say. ranged is better. great! druids go balance and do some aura buff and dps. pls ... feral druids. take the bow. find another option. Oh and. if rogues were removed from the game. youd be down to OT and healing/balance dps. cauz nothing to base ur other form on. ur a copy. not the real thing. cant beat the OG. stop trying.

Комментарий от Thottbot

To break the atmosphere completely here, I just looted these brilliant legs on my hunter a few days ago. These suit very good to my survival spec with the high agility. I lost about 30 int, but mana ain't really the problem as Survival due to the talent ''thrill of the hunt''.

I ain't saying that it's allright to let hunters need on these (I only took them since nobody else was interrested), I agree completely that these should mainly go to a rogue or a druid. I must agree a bit on that rogues should have maybe a slight better use of these since the druids, which are used in raids, primarily are used as off-tanks and basicly only (only is a weak word here) dpses when they ain't tanking. Atleast that's how it works in the guilds which I've been in so far.

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