Believe it or not I got my hands on these before Assassination Leggings. 35+ runs in Shadow Labs and no Assassination leggings have dropped. It took me 40+ Mech runs to get my Tunic. No joke. It's very frustrating.

These are not bad pants at all, but comparing the Epic status vs a blue drop off an easy instance is the problem. These should probably be buffed a bit more.

The difference between these and the Assassination Leggings are marginal at best. There's one thing people forget and that is having gem slots to meet meta gem requirements. These do help with that. Some meta gems, like the brutal earthstorm have tough requirements. I know you can use purple, orange, etc.. gems to meet the requirements more easily...but those gems aren't really that great. Unless of course you get some PVP gems or some nice rare/heroic drops.

I was basically going for +Sta when comparing these pants, although I've done all possible combinations with enchants and different gems. Like I said above, the difference is marginal at best. Diff combinations of gems and the two leg armor enchants and there are many possibilities w/the Midnight Legguards.

Leggings of assassination
Str:
Agi: 50
Sta: 63
AP: 44
Crit Rating:
Crit from CR: 0.00
Crit from Agi: 1.25
Dodge Rating:
Dodge from DR:
Dodge from Agi: 2.645502646
Hit Rating: 22
Total HR: 1.39
GEM SLOTS:

Enchants: Stamina + 30
Agility +10

Total Crit: 1.25
Total Dodge: 2.645502646
Total AP: 94
Total HP: 630
Total Hit: 1.39

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Midnight Legguards
Str:
Agi: 10
Sta: 69
AP: 92
Crit Rating: 25
Crit from CR: 1.13
Crit from Agi: 0.25
Dodge Rating:
Dodge from DR:
Dodge from Agi: 0.529100529
Hit Rating: 17
Total HR: 1.08
GEM SLOTS:
RED
RED
BLUE

Gem 1: Bright Living Ruby
16 AP
Gem 2 Bright Living Ruby
16 AP
Gem 3 Solid Star of Elune
12 Stamina

Enchants: Stamina +30
Agility +10

Total Crit: 1.38
Total Dodge: 0.53
Total AP: 102
Total HP: 690
Total Hit: 1.08

The only real difference w/this combination is .31 hit rating and dodge. I personally love +hit, but this combination does not bother me one bit. I gain 60 more HP, a few AP and a little more crit. No big deal really, but it suits me just fine.

Besides, 4 pieces of Assassination is all I need. I don't care for 5.

I would not wear the Oilcloth Breeches over these, although they are very nice pants for a guaranteed quest item.

Комментарий от 18845

but these look SOO much better than the oilcloth!
dang devilsaur re-treads.... :P

Комментарий от 2955

Dropped for me tonight from Quagmirran in Heroic Slave Pens.

They're an on par/slight downgrade for AP and crit chance from my original leggings; https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=30257 Shattrath Leggings. Socketed them up with 2 x 16 AP red gems and a Str/Stam blue gem.

In terms of a Feral Druid - socketed right, these babies are not bad at all - but the best thing?

They're hot looking.

I'm honestly sick of looking like I fell out of a seconds clothing bin when I'm in my feral gear.

Комментарий от 13176

the X-52 pilot leggings seem to be as good this.

it has no stam/ap
but it does lack +hit and has a LITTLE less crit.

Комментарий от Vesper

For rogues, comparing these too Netherblade Breeches (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29046).

Netherblade Breeches gives total:
114 AP
0.94% crit
1.39% hit
34 stamina

Now for comparison reasons use Bright Living Ruby +16 AP, Glinting Noble Topaz +4 agi & + 4 hit, Jagged Talasite +4 crit + 6 sta on Midnight Legguards that will give in total (including socket bonus):
80 AP
1.41% crit
1.33% hit
33 stamina

Basically a tradeoff between 34 AP more on Netherblade Breeches against ~0.5% crit.

Personnaly I would go for Netherblade Breeches because the 4 setbonus on Netherblade is quite ok and also it saves me about ~150 gold on gems.

Комментарий от 32849

ATM with 3x Star of Elune these are just as good if not better than Gladiator leggings for rogue PvP.

Комментарий от Sephius

On run # 6 for the badboys, still no drop.

Комментарий от Vesper

Getting buffed in patch 2.1
30 stamina
17 hit rating
27 critical strike rating
64 attackpower
2x red socket
1x blue socket
+4 hit socket bonus

Total changes:
+3 stamina
+4 hit rating
+2 critical strike rating
+4 attackpower

Small but sweet buff.

Комментарий от tsiris

I'm using this on my hunter over the demon stalker legs i banked for mostly 1 reason. With 45ap / 12crit +3 8agi gems, goes to 2.29% crit 142.4ap (saw will get buffed so even more). That crit is a lot for hunter from 1 single armor piece (although i sacrifise the mp5, i prefer more crit).

Комментарий от 52296

Atm i use https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28347 with +40AP and 10 crit ratin

Is it worth farming these or should i just keep mine?

Комментарий от 12690

These are clearly itemized to get PvP'ers into instances. They're awesome, damned near as good as the gladiator's pants.

Комментарий от Moegi

I honestly dont know what crack all you tards are smoking but these pants are insane i have 166 AP on them what pants allow you that much AP?

Комментарий от Thabo

Leggings of the Unrepentant https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27514 dropped in the Blood Furnace are almost as good, I miss the hit though.

Комментарий от 54308

so i was having fun healing a group through heroic slave pens on ym druid right? I ws with a warrior, warlock, mage, and a hunter. I was happy cause this was the last heroic i needed for my healing necklace from badges. We down quag...these drop...i ask everyone if it is cool if i take these for feral although i am resto. Everyone said sure, its alright...the hunter rolls need as well...I know it sounds cliche, but i lost these to a hunter.

Комментарий от 11556

That sucks, but i as a hunter have these. there very nice if there isnt a rogue ora druid that needs them in your group until u can get a better mail piece of gear.

Комментарий от 67029

I ran SL maybe 7 times and gave up on my Assassination just because I hate SL. Then I come on my first Heroic SP run and these drop (Im a rogue..), needless to say, I was very happy

Комментарий от zenmastervex

Based on my calculations as a rogue, comparing these pants to the Assassination Leggings... Using the Midnight Legguards (socketed with two bright living rubies and one shifting nightseye), you get:

+30 Health
+16 AP
+0.33% Crit
-0.06% Hit
-1.8 Dodge

The health gain and +hit loss is negligible. The crit is nice, and the AP comes out to just about 15dps more... but is it worth losing 1.8% dodge? I decided to stick with the assassination legs.

Комментарий от 79678

I got these and socketed them with a bunch of AP. I use these for raiding. I keep my assasination legs for soloing and dailies and stuff. the sheer ap makes these more attractive for raiding, your shoudlnt be getting hit to often anyway, and if you do, you will probably be near death anyway. shame on you you aggro ripper. as far the crit goes... meh, its negligible. ok so not neglible but.. ok i would just rather wear them for raiding haha

Комментарий от 27519

These leggings are better than Vanquisher's legplates, for you warriors out there. If there isnt a rogue or druid and you want to be a dps warrior, make sure you dont let them get sharded.
you get 4 crit rating and 17 hit rating for a loss of armor, 8 AP, and 6 stam. Not a big deal, Imo. Makes these better for fury AND arms dps.

Комментарий от Chicken

So I got these on my rogue.

They are replacing Oilcloth Breeches . I socketed them with 2 +4hit/+4Agi and 1 +4Agi/+6Sta gems.

Compared to Oilcloth, ungemmed, they are only slightly better. The gem slots will help make them much better, with the right gems you have yourself a very nice upgrade. Along with the epic leg enchant (which you probably wouldn't waste on blue pants anyway) then it really shines!

Not counting the epic leg enchant because you *can* apply them to both legs...

Oilcloth Breeches
243 Armor
+24Sta
+25Hit
+30Crit
+60AP

Midnight Legguards (gemmed)
305Armor
+30Sta (+36Sta)
+17Hit (+29Hit)
+27Crit (not sure of the math with the +Agi gems, only a slight loss if any compared to Oilcoth)
+64AP (+76AP)

* - I tried my best with the math, if there are corrections to be made please don't flame me. :-)

They also look much cooler than Oilcloth... the real reason to get them :-)

Комментарий от 62481

i may be losing my mind here, but i have tested these pants over and over again with rating buster (i have tested multiple other items with rating buster and can tell you now that it is not broken) and it looks like these pants are bugged, giving me a full .5% extra crit than it should.

does anyone else notice this?

pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ekhozindar/WoW/WoWScrnShot_120307_152914.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ekhozindar/WoW/WoWScrnShot_120307_152921.jpg

Edit:
bleh... photobucket resized them kinda small sorry =/

Комментарий от wingman

Just got these on my feral druid for his cat set on his 2nd run of SP. Due to the 2.3 patch changes to Heart of the Wild affecting all AP instead of just strength, I gemmed them with 2 x delicate living ruby (8 agi each) and 1 x shifting nightseye (4 agi 6 stam).

Compared to my previous leggings Clefthoof Hide Legs my stats change accordingly:
Lose 9 AP
Gain .82% crit
Lose 4 expertise
Gain 4 hit rating.
Gain 126 health

Im very happy with them, I got them for a crit upgrade as I have some more AP on the way in terms of crafted gear in progress.

Комментарий от Raiking

I would like to point out that these leggings are very good for a hunter. For a BM or MM specced hunter these are the best pants to get pre-T4 from Magtheridon.

First of all, the T4 leg tokens drop from Gruul.
Just to clear things up.

Second of all, (This is from BM-hunters Point of view) for hunter I'd go for the Midnight Legguards over the Rip-flayer leggings.

Int and mp5 is nice for a hunter ofc, but capping your hit first has priority, which is 142 (9%) for lvl 73 mobs/bosses. Compared +hit, int and mp5 are secondary stats if not less. They probably come in on the third of fourth position of important stats.

There's also 8 more AP on these leggings and this covers the 1 crit rating less (0,05% crit) imo. And again, if you don't have your hit capped yet, hitrating will definetely increase your dps more than critrating.

You could socket up your Rip-flayer leggings with +Hit gems or agi/hit gems, but you would miss out on a lot of AP and Crit by not putting in crit/AP/agi gems in there.

So, if you would have capped your hit and have a big lack of mana and mp5, then I'd go for the Rip-flayer leggings, but only in this case.

Комментарий от 6989

Better stats on these than the T4 shaman leggings as well. I'll be using these until I get my hands on the Bow-stitched Leggings from Azgalor in Mt Hyjal, as enhancement shaman.

Комментарий от Brj1986

ehrm... either im the most unlucky guy in the world, or the drop
rate on these pants has gone down ?

I've been doing hero SP 9 - 10 times now, and i have seen all the
the other drops there is.. but I havn't seen pants -.-

any advice ?

Комментарий от 76552

Bottom line:

They ARE better than Assassin Legs BUT it costs about 200G (varies on server) to get them better. I put 2 x 16AP and 1 x 4 Crit 6 Sta gems in and Cobrahide Armour.

Nice - but expensive, will last me though :D

Комментарий от 148712

these are defginetely better than t4 legs and generelly any legs simillar to t4 out there (fury warr)...

Only flaw is the drop rate...
I've done 10 of this heroi and it never drops...

either bliz hates me or i need a new pair of dice :p

Комментарий от Infuria

exact same graphic as leggings of assassination. i don't like the legs, though. i'd really like to get the t4 ones or the badge ones...

Комментарий от 166805

Is it only me or are these legs also good for a fury warrior?

I started looking for some desent fury legs for KZ, I first got the AH legs. Cheap and they are fine enough. Good for a start. But then i needed something better. There is the Badge legs which takes very long time to get. Then there is the Mech legs HC. These legs are more for warriors ofc but then again. If you need hit i think The MIdnight Legguards are better and with the right sockets they are just what you need. AP, Crit and Hit. Of c does BoK not stack and AP so there you lose a deal. It's the only negative thing i can see with these legs. (And ofc the armor but tbh armor doesnt mean a &*!@, hopefully you are skilled enough not to take agro :P)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i got them today with 2 guildies and 2 randoms.

funny thing is im a prot warrior, and they let me need roll this. sence im only prot for the day, back to fury and these are babes in raids :-)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My very first run and i got them!(i am hunter,but i still they fit to me perf) I love them ! very nice dps gear for hunter and rogue ..gona put some gems and they will rock

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got these in heroic SP tonight. one of the best rogue item in heroics, socketed it with 2 bright living rubys and 1 jagged talasite, gonna apply nethercobra on it

Комментарий от Allakhazam

in my guild a rogue already got 2 of them. one he socketed for pvp and one for pve .

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Man I need to get those....those are very nice damn

Комментарий от Allakhazam

dropped off quagmirran in slave pens on heroic mode.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Did my very first Heroic run ever tonight. Got a very good group and only wiped twice, both times because of a feared mob running in another group :(

Killed Quagmirran pretty easy, et voila, these badboys show up. So me being a rogue and the only leather wearing class in the group got the pants. And now im very freakin happy :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got the legs today ^^

pic: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2995/leggingsmh7.jpg

Комментарий от Allakhazam

These are very nice PvE leggings, and with the right gems they are also all right for PvP. They are more inclined for pve though, as their stats match that of the t4 legs.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

God dammit, i did sp today, we did great, got the Quagmiran, i got really exiting when the boss died, we w8ed a little bit, and then we loot.. Argh ! the mage boots ! i got so angry...Isnt it a very low dropd rate, i didnt get it, and from all i've heard not many have gotten it.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

with 2 +16ap and a +4crit +6endu gem this make total
92 total ap
29 crit (1.3% crit @lvl 70)
17 hit
33 endu

compared to T4 :
114 total ap
38agi (0.9% crit @lvl 70)
22 hit
34 endu

22ap 5hit 1endu -VS- 0.4crit

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