While warriors and pally's can benefit from this immediately at 37, I actually prioritize more dpsing classes over them for this helmet. Simply because Icemetal Barbute is available right at 40, which has better stats for the common Warrior/Paladin (unless they're dpsing a whole lot, for some reason).

I would give it to hunters/shammy's/warriors first.

Paladins shouldn't be dpsing in the first place! Whaddya need crit for? :P

Комментарий от 56415

What the hell are you talking about? *cough* Solo Ret *cough*

Moron!

Комментарий от 77950

What can i say about this helm? Its excellent: awesome for pvp because of the stats and the crit chance is awesome for dps warrior ot ret pally. Paired up with The Rockpounder, found in Uldaman, you can have about an extra 4-6% +crit chance. I even have the Icemetal Barbut, which has more armor and better stats, and yet i cant get away from this helm...I love the critting :)

Комментарий от 60711

Great stats and 1.4 Crit chance :D

Комментарий от Sandos

Ofcourse, this is also a great hunter helmet. Just 3 levels later you can wear this and 1% crit is a great add for hunters. Also the stamina is pretty high for its level and the strength, well, for in tight moments in melee I guess it's not bad.

Комментарий от 92616

This is a great item for a hunter too.Gives a 1% maybe higher critical chance and the stats aren't bad either

Комментарий от 79862

Awesome helmet for an Enhancement shaman post-40.

If you go to Armory 37 and up, and there is a warr/pal in your group, PLEASE , unless they have it..

PASS TO THEM. They can use it right away. Just wait, it will drop again.

Back to item..

+26 AP (13str x 2ap/str = 26ap) + the extra stam is awesome. ON TOP of the nice crit!

Комментарий от 6160

Decent for survival hunters only because of the crit on it, the strength is nearly meaningless unless you are constantly pulling aggro off your pet.

Комментарий от 93630

Still using at lvl 45, the ice metal barbute is not better than this,and neither is anything else for dps.

Комментарий от 152977

The Helm is SUPERB!Just won today from the boss from the Scarlet Monastery!

Комментарий от 170458

Still using as a level 58 Shaman. I'm trying to get a new helm but...this helm ROCKS!

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm a warrior and I don't care about some extra armor if I get +1% crit + these stats instead... Though hunters/shaman can also use it and I wouldn't care if a hunter rolled for it if we both needed it.

Don't forget, Warriors may wear plate at lvl 40 but that doesn't mean they get a plate helmet with nice stats at level 40. A friend of mine was still wearing some mail at level 50.

Комментарий от Thottbot

First time running SM and it drops, im only lvl 35 hunter and there was a 36 warrior and we both rolled, I barely won but then every starts to get pissed at me except the warrior himself who didnt really care. I was like, wtf? it adds +1% crit and the armor at lvl 40 will be a nice change, I had every right to roll on it, and if the warrior won I wouldn't of complained. It can be useful for most melee classes so it was a item up for grabs, I'm still pissed they acted like that >_<

Комментарий от Thottbot

i did the whole armory and Cath instance yesterday and i ran the armory town time looking for the pauldrons and got the helm both times! i was looking for the Scarlet Chestpiece when i went trough the Cath but never saw it. anyone know where it would drop more commonly!

Комментарий от Thottbot

got this on my shaman earlier today

all i need now is the shoulders...got pants a few days ago.

YES this is good for shaman, please don't say it wasn't. Had 2 warriors, a lock, and a priest in group so i benefitted most anyway.

Комментарий от Thottbot

As a dual-wielding fury specced warrior I would love to have this helm. I need all the critical strike % i can get because there are not many items for warriors that have agi on them. For you who say, well you get plate once you hit 40; most plate helmets level 40-45 only have about 50-70 more armor than this helm and have no where near as good as stat bonuses. I would much rather stick a 50 armor enchant on my cloak and wear this awesome helmet than a plate helm at level 40. Ice metal barbute is no where near as good as this statwise for a dps/crit warrior.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Anyone who can use it can roll on it. Warriors, paladins, shamans and hunters. It has nice stats for everyone.

Sure it's 200 less armor than plate but its just one stat. In many situations you want stats+crit instead of armor. Not tanking gear but damage gear.

And why couldnt level 37 hunter roll on it? You make 3 levels in one day if you want to.

So stupid people here! "I will kick everyone who doesn't agree." "I'm allways right!" "Obey me!" I'm the god!

Go grow up please!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Gavros: It's easy too get helm if the group leader is agains loowbies that will need before the lvl too use it. /w him and tell him too take on masterloot and then you'll get it :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

It is Bound when picked up, so it means it cannot be traded.

Комментарий от Thottbot

this is not for hunter, i play both hunter and pally, hunter is level 60, just got BC recently and havent gotten him to 70 yet

it's stupid for any hunter to say they need stregth, those hunter dont know how to play their class, if blizzard intended for hunter to use stregth then tell me...

why the hell are none of the end-game hunter
armor has any str at all?

learn to play hunter noobs if you run out of mana get int, not str dumb retards. stop making hunters look bad

Комментарий от Thottbot

Okay, honestly... This is for just about any class that can use the +14 critical strike rating (And can wear mail of course). This includes Hunters, Enhancement-specced Shamans, Warriors, and Paladins. Hunters and Shamans have JUST as much right to this helmet as a Warrior or Paladin so don't go screaming and crying about ninja Hunters.

To all of you who really HAVE had someone ninja it from you (Rogues, Mages, Warlocks, etc.), my apologies.

Warriors and Paladins, this will last you a good long while. It's a VERY nice helmet and if you won it before you hit level 40 (So you can go kick ass in Battlegrounds :P), then congratulations! Go you! All that good stuff.
If you're already 40, and you won it, then go you (Again)!

For Hunters/Enhancement Shamans, this can also last you a while. Probably longer than a Warrior or Paladin, but again, they have just as much right to this as you.

I wouldn't complain if a Hunter or Shaman beat my Warrior's Need roll.
But if there were more people like me then i guess the game would be extremely boring. :P

Комментарий от Thottbot

Remember to put it on Master Looter if your the leader and are going after this helm solely.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Priority of Herods items. (all)

Warrior: They have use of Herods items, because of Strength, Stamina and Critical Strike Rating

Shamans: The Shamans have need of this helm, because they can use mail at level 40. the bad side is that it lacks intellect.

Paladin: The Paladins have less use of this helm than the Shamans, because they can wear plate at 40+ (yes, this sounds strange, why ain't warriors and paladins prioritated as the same?) because Paladins need Intellect.

Hunters the lowest priority, because they don't need strength >as much< as the other classes, but they need Critical Strike Rating, i wouldn't complain if anyone who can use these items at level 40, rolled need.

And.. casters and rogues + Dr00ds.. they have NO priority, if they roll need, in ANY case, even a group full of clothies and leathers, rolling need on any item that is mail/plate, should be considered as ninjalooting.

End of this.

Tojara Maghteridon

Комментарий от Thottbot

I hate all these nub hunters with this and the sc set, STRENGTH IS USELESS FOR HUNTERS! get that through your thick skulls.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i rolled and i was asked by party could they need i say no i need it and they need WTF and they needed everything in whole SM insances (all 4) man that was just dumb and a lvl 33 shammy won yhat was dumb and i was like OMFG

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ran VERY many times to get this item. (like I was in armory from 36-42) and finally gave up. Came back as a 47 shammy and soled it. Took a long time and quite a bit of water but I think it was worth it because it has perfect enhancement shaman stats.

Комментарий от Thottbot

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2314/wowscrnshot010408035957wy9.jpg

One sweet helmet. Looks great on me.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Is this goood for a shaman?

Комментарий от Thottbot

is it possible for it to drop herods shoulder and the helm at the same time or not?

Комментарий от Thottbot

nope, you have either the helm or the shoulders, or even worse nothing usefull. you got to do the run over again then.

Комментарий от Thottbot

K noobs.
Im a lvl 37 hunter. I was going for Ravager and the helm dropped. I rolled need because I ran out of arrows right after the beginning of armory. You can't use anything but melee without arrows. The str would have been an immense help. Well what about agi? It improves criticals and their damage. So what. Hunters can use it and that's good enough.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

To all the naabs crying about a shaman "ninja'ing" this off them... Ever played a Shaman? Easiest way to level is by going Enhancement... Hang on a second, isn't that talent tree based entirely around melee combat? Why yes! Yes it is! So wouldn't all the stats on this helm be right on the button for an enhancement Shaman? Why yes! Yes they would!
Just because you didn't get something you needed doesn't mean the person who got it didn't need it. If an elemental Shaman rolled need on this helm, fine, tear them a preverbial new one, but if they are enhancement spec, as many young shamans are, then they need this item as much as ANY Warrior or Paladin or Hunter. End of! Stop complaining & think about other peoples needs for once in your lives.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is not a "hunter's helm." However, STA=pet stamina and AC=Pet armor, so these values are quite important for a hunter.

In a high thirties group, though, it's a little less clear who this really benefits most. It's good for warriors and pallies who plan on spending time in BG before leveling, but they will be dropping it for plate soon. Enhancement shammies benefit most, then it's not bad for a hunter, if the tank plans on leveling.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Just would like to say every single person thats fighting about who should wear this helm or what classes should wear this helm are being childish im a lvl 40 hunter just got my armour for mail proficientcy and i went to SM armoury just for this helm and i was with 2 warriors and a pally and they all said go for it thats how the game should be played everyone should be says i got this helm and everyone else should be saying kewl and talking bout the actual helm not bickering about who should wear it i love it and yazzarh ur a fuking idiot dont bother replying or nething i wont chek back to see whos complaining bout what i have said so whom ever wants this helm be it a hunter or ne other class good luck and i hope u dont run into ignorant ppl like yazzarh gg ppl

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ok, im very pissed of

I tried to farm this helmet tonight

and all ive got were

8 x Shoulder
1 x Ravager

Комментарий от Allakhazam

nope this helm is definately from SM, not RFD.

Icemetal Barbute is from RFD.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm a level 36 tauren shaman, going to get this baby for my l40 set. I already got the Leggings since no one in the group could/would be able to wear mail. I jsut got the shoulde,r so I'm lookign forward to this helm adn the ravager for the last 2 pieces.

And it looks better than the dumbass little leather caps I can wear

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got a group last night, went in, made it through, and this dropped :D

Asked group if I could need it (38 Paladin), was with 40+ Warrior, 40 Druid, and 30 Druid. Everyone was okay with it.

Absoutly love it :)

Best group i've worked with, we didn't really have any problems going through the armory.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is an excellent helm for level 37 Warriors and Paladins. I'm level 45 and still using it, but I'm going to drop it very soon because I'm seeing better ones pop up in the "Plate" area. Anyways, it's a wonderful helm, and definately worth getting during your next 3-4 levels.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This helmet isnt great for hunters imo, sure it has a crit but hunters dont really need the agility. this helm should be paladin/warrior prio then shaman next since the overall stats help them the most

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I think it looks awesome on my Gnome. But i can see Yunoh's point you never wanna cover pigtails. *drool* Oh yea it does to come from SM not RFD you CRACKHEADS!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ive been lookin to buy runs for SM arm and havn't gotten much luck, got 1 and got the shoulders which i need. im a 33 warrior arms warrior atm and lookin for this helm to add to my crit % and its a lot better than Green Iron Helm. ive been adding agi enchants to my new equips instead of stam or str because my crits are nasty for my lvl :p. was runnin VC duo and hit 700+ a few times on crits with HS. also been tryin to get scarlet legguards and have no luck, same with the chestpiece which is a lot rarer.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I was going to pick this up in some sm runs for my hunt just to get some mail even though the stats are crap for him. Luckley my friend hooked me up with the highberg helm(very stupid looking on an orc.

ps: i still give it drops on the looks lol

Комментарий от Allakhazam

does anyone have a pick of this on a dwarf

Комментарий от Allakhazam

how do this look on troll?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Litterlay just did SM and killed Herod and his little goons...Since everyone i was partied with couldn't wear this helm and im a rogue we all rolled... I rolled highest and won but the god damn Ninja Bastard took it and was like "Oh i didnt know that i couldn't push the botton" Wow what an ass...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The Ninja was a Shaman...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

im a shaman and a warrior let me have it because he said "i dont need cause i wear plate in three lvls" :P

besides im enhance so i need that stamina and critical strike

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This helm dont drop in SM its in RFD a instance in barrons .

Комментарий от Allakhazam

right, this helm is blatantly meant for a fury warrior... end of, it even drops off a mob that looks like a bloody fury warrior and has similar abilities. so to all those shamans who think they should roll on it... no... no you shoudnt... if there is a warrior or hunter in the group they should get it... shaman... just no.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i got this item like few time and i am bored to got it.. i want shouldersX( but this is pretty helmet and i finally take on "show helmet" action... its like first time.. now i dont enymore run in SM becouse library is only base where i can got something pretty good T: grandhunter, khadgar, 42 dwarf hunter

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i would love this for my enhancement shammy would defently tip the scales in PvP

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is a warrior Item for the Pallys out there thinking the want to roll on it like the one that did it to me... Grrr

Комментарий от Allakhazam

first of all, this helm is not worth a warrior OR pally getting, cause in 3 lvls they can start wearing plate

and 2nd, LF is not worth rolling on either, pallys roll on valor B/c its far superior to LF, i should know i play a pally (60) on lightbringer, teddypally

you obviously dont know what the hell you are talking about. just because you can use plate in 3 levels doesnt mean anything. there are mail items in the upper 30's that are better then plate items in the low 40 and some mail items later in the game that are better then the average plate item.

plus you must suck as a pally. Pallys need stamina, intell, and spirit. in the end game they are healers. you dont need any strength or agility or critical strike, none of that @#$%. give that to the warriors and you might actually get somewhere

Комментарий от Allakhazam

yes this helm is from SM i got it off herod my 2nd run to armor

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It droped land night...I needed and a holy pally as well,but I won :D
Nice helm

Комментарий от Allakhazam

it's an item that is worn by a virtual game avatar. you purchased the game, you have the right to use any item you want, without using hacks or cheats. so dont tell people they are dumb for taking or wanting it. it looks cool, im a hunter and i plan on getting it. be reasonable though; if someone else in your group might use it to better potential, why not let them have it.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ok u guys need to quit bein all "i no eveything u noobs" and listen...ever heard of a 39 twink warrior? so stop saying no1 needs it cuz they can wear plate

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Excellent helm to complete the scarlet set. Finially got it after running into a few unfortionate 'ninjas' shall I say. Anyway, if you are searching for this, look no farther than the Armory. It looks sweet!

Anyone want to sell the boots? ^_^

Комментарий от Allakhazam

this dropped from herod i was outbid by a 48 HUNTER who said he was gonna sell it until he saw the BoP.:( Im so freaking mad!

Комментарий от Unrezred

REQUIRES LEVEL 37!

To hunters: It's true that stamina and plate armor are better for a tank after level 40. The 1% critical strike chance is a huge bonus you would never normally get from having Agility on it and tanks really don't need it.

To warriors: if you're a tank. The 13 strength is great for block, that's true. But the stamina and armor isn't comparable to plate after level 40. A warrior tank will replace this piece quickly. However, if you're a dps warrior, especially arms spec there is a reason that this piece of gear is the best for twinks... The 13 strength gives +2 attack power for warriors and paladins for each point of strength, but for other classes Strength only gives +1 attack power. This is an exceptional piece of gear for warrior dps, mainly if the player wants to be able to burn down casters (mages, priests, warlocks, balance druids) and is more worried about how long they will actually dps the warrior rather than how long they can survive without killing them.

The only reason to upgrade this piece to plate for dps warriors is to survive longer against other warriors and rogues (or feral druids) where armor matters and being attacked by physical damage is resisted by more armor, just like equipping a shield.

Make sure that you are making a calculated decision before rolling on this piece of gear because it really is a good piece for a hunter, not just because of the critical strike and it being mail but also because it is a lot of attack power and stamina for a hunter. Don't make the mistake I made, I ended up wearing this piece for three levels before my lucky ass got a blue Plate helm. No stealing from the same faction on your server! ;)

Комментарий от AoBman05

This is arguably best in slot for warriors, Ret pallys, and Enhance shamans for leveling. Leveling MM/Surv Hunters might want this too, but it'd be more for the Crit and less about the STR/STA.

Regardless, you won't find a quest or dungeon drop that has comparable stats until you get close to Lv60 and can start focusing on PreBiS drops like Глаз Ренда.

Everything else before the endgame content either has inferior STR/AP or is lacking in another stat entirely (such as not having +1% Crit or Stam). Щиток Ярости comes close for warriors, but every experienced warrior will tell you to get the Бриллиантовая фляжка instead since trinkets are much harder to replace on principle and is futureproof for classic.

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