Seems like both these fish have a very low drop rate.

But I did find something out about them.
1.) They are not rare spawned pools (ie a single fish in a pool named old ironjaw). I thought that after catching around 300 fish with no luck. So having the track fish book will not help you at all.
2.) They can be caught in The Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge for Old Ironjaw or in Org for Old Crafty.
3.) There is no logic behind them, they are just very low drops. They are not like spawned mobs.
4.) Caught 300 Mud Snappers, 150 Catfish and 80 Smallfish before I got my hands on one.

Комментарий от greystoker

Do you need to be of a specific faction? I'd like to know if I can take my Dwarf into Org and try to catch it. Yes, I have that much time on my hands...

Комментарий от 108712

Caught Old Ironjaw last night and the pool outside The Forlorn Cavern on my undead rogue...took me 462 casts and a few hours,aswell as a few corpse runs after being ganked.gonna go for the Org fish next

Комментарий от 108768

Got Ironjaw while lvling fishing, got 225 skill before I got this fish.

I uploaded screen shot, it is waiting approval.

/cheer

Комментарий от 43226

Took just under 500 catches to snag this. Im a hordie, so I took a few deaths on my server, Cenarion Circle, but for the most part Alliance left me alone. Like Chav, going for Old Crafty next, and maxing out my fishing skill as well.

Комментарий от shootstokill

I managed to catch one, in the pond of the mystic ward, took me 700 catches to get it, i have fished atleast another 300 fish there since, but no luck catching another one.

Комментарий от Kabby

Tips for HORDE fishing Old Ironjaw

Fish while /sleeping to look slightly less conspicuous.
Be prepared to click "OK" on a "Looting this item will bind it to you" dialog box. This dialog box appears regardless of whether you're in a group, and if you cast again before clicking OK, you will not loot the fish.
Turn off the display of your title to make your bright red name smaller.
The easiest, most out of the way place to fish from is the Forlorn Cavern. Most alliance traffic will be coming from the West, so fish from the Southwest corner of the Forlorn Cavern. I recommend riding through Stormwind (either through the front or through the new harbor) to take the tram into Ironforge instead of the densely populated front entrance.
Bring some Elixirs of Camouflage. Most of the alliance who gave me trouble were hunters and druids who had track humanoids on. Using this elixir will reduce ganking. Edit: Or, if you are a hunter, you can use Aspect of the Beast (Thanks, Arhippa!)
Have at least 4 empty bag slots; the more you have, the better.
If you are not at max fishing skill, make sure your skill is not capped. You will probably do quite a lot of fish catching, so you may as well get skill points for it.
Be patient! It took me 943 catches to get him, which is about 4 hours of fishing. This will quite probably take you a long time, so don't set out to do it one sitting. If gankers are persistent, be prepared to log out and play another character or do something else.

Good luck!

Комментарий от VanCleef

The Orgrimmar equivalent is Old Crafty.

Комментарий от Jel251

Leveling fishing while trying to catch this guy as I type this, I'm at 92 fishing with no luck.

Комментарий от Vythika

Just fished this guy out of the Great Forge (52,47)!

LMFAO! >.<

Shame it's BoP...

I think I was extremely lucky in that I caught him in about 25-30 casts.

Комментарий от 136887

Tauren Druid on Xavius
1000 catches
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x617
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x199
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x173
19 Pound Catfish x2
Lesser Mana Potion x3
Lesser Healing Potion x3
Bloated Mud Snapper x2
Green (Mail) Legs (x1)

6 hours in Enemy City, 0 ganks, 0 Old Ironjaw's

My Old Crafty is lonley

Edited 1 day later : After around 16-18 Hours of Fishing in last 2 days, probably over 3000 casts, caught Old Ironjaw :D
Proud owner of both Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw (also got The 1 Ring too, which i read is rarer than both of them, so thats a bonus :P)

Комментарий от Gnowo

As mentioned by Vythika above, this fishy is BoP. So do not sit around fishing this with your main, just to have it sent to your alt as this simply won't work.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i caught him oh yeah!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Reeled in from the Forlorn Cavern. Did not he existed until I caught him.
I'll post a picture.

Braghlinn/Azuremyst

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I just caught him in ironforge

Комментарий от Thottbot

Caught him nov 23. about 40 cast

Комментарий от Thottbot

got him after catching 52 longjaw mud snappers, 18 bristle whisker catfish, and 7 brilliant smallfish

Комментарий от Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw over a month ago, and I shouted out in glee--announcing to all my fisherman's catch. No one knew what he was, so they all gathered in the Forlorn Cathern, in Ironforge, to try and catch him for themselves. It took me 16 casts to catch him; but the sizeable crowd that had gathered at my fishing spot had no such luck. I continued to fish along with them, and half an hour later I cought him again; I stuck around for another 2 hours to level my skill and no one among the 30 odd people that were fishing like madmen were able to catch Old Ironjaw... I walked away with fish in hand.

The best part about this is that not long afterward, and without actual intention, I got a Dark Whelpling while questing casually in the Bad Lands... I guess you can never underestimate a rogue's luck.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw on Christmas Day, 2007! Caught him again on December 30. So much for uncatchable.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Lol just got mine i fished 61 fishes when i found him, but was it rly worth the wait?

Комментарий от Thottbot

CHEERS! Caught him at Level 22 Fishing! Black Dragonflight Server. Its so awesome. Will never get rid of this little guy.

Комментарий от Thottbot

OMG i got him :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

I caught Old Ironjaw too. I've never heard of Old Ironjaw till now lol

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ran into ironforge on my 70 troll hunter and caught it 1st cast, was pretty epic.

Evilpoptart, Executus or GTFO.

Комментарий от Thottbot

It is very possible for the Horde to catch this fish (as well as the Alliance to catch it's Horde counterpart - Old Crafty https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34486/старый-хитрюга)

The only catch (no pun intended) is getting into Ironforge (or Orgrimar) Best time is off hours late at night or early morning...find a corner (I've posted a screenie of best location I've found)...and hope no one sees you :P

Caught mine after 2 hours of fishing / getting ganked / rezzing / fishing (rinse and repeat)

Комментарий от Thottbot

i got old ironjaw on my alliance warlock on uldum while getting my fishing skill up for the new fishing daily quest

Комментарий от Thottbot

it took 218 casts but i finally got it woohoo

but it sucks because they need to make fishing poles 1h so you can hold your prized fish in the offhand

oh well still cool!

Комментарий от mumuzhizhi

after about 800 times
finally i get this
04:51:49 13/9/2021
from TBCC，China servers。

Комментарий от Drosera

I can confirm Old Ironjaw is fishable currently in TBC classic, did it on my tauren in the back of the cave in Ironforge. Took 2.5 hours. May you be luckier than I.

Комментарий от Amoris

It took me 1106 catches, don't forget to accept the popup window! :)
Wish you all good luck with it, especially for the fellow hordies trying to hide in the cove :P

Комментарий от Snasamannen

Caught it just now after 246 catches

Комментарий от caffo666

Total casts: 1817

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x1072
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x382
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x330
17 & 19 Pound Catfish x18
Lesser Mana Potion x7
Lesser Healing Potion x4
Blue leaher bag x1
Green recipe x2
Old Ironjaw x1

Good luck to your long day(s) of fishing.

Комментарий от Sunash

Just farmed on 2 characters in TBC Classic as Horde from Forlorn Cavern, both had significantly lower drop rates than posted. Toon 1 took 1709 casts (0.058% drop rate) and Toon 2 took 2112 casts (0.047% drop chance).

Комментарий от Thrage20

460 Casts for mine, No lures used.

Комментарий от Jamsham

1500+ casts

finally loot one. in autopilot mode and didn't accept the this item will bind itself to you and recast fishing.

so 1500+ casts and i only got a pile of self pity

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