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actually after thinking back and forth, in the end i do think it is worth it, after all. If you think you're ready to take the next step in maximizing the damage available, this is a must have. +14dmg is not much, but it stacks in the end with all the extra effort you put to upgrade your socketed gear. And by the way, at that point you probably already have those easy farmable/craftable 6 void crystals, and all the prismatic shards along with the essence.

And speaking about the primals, well, 20 primals is farmable in one day. I don't know about you, but if i was a hardcore epiced out guy with the best gems/thread out there, why not skip kara/SSC/arena for that day and go for those primals instead. After all, it all stacks up. And hey, you get a sexy glow there aswell.

Комментарий от 39663

Getting this enchant or not simply depends on how long you think you'll keep the weapon you put it on.

I play a shadowpriest, using Nathrezim Mindblade for main-hand. Having scouted wowhead, allakhazam and thottbot I found the next upgrade for me drops in in Mount Hyjal (unless Vashj and Kael'Thas have some unrecorded drops). Pretty easy decision to spend some extra mats on getting the best enchant there is for something I'm gonna keep a looong time.

As for glows, this one probably gives a pale-blue pulsing one. I've only ever seen it on the dagger I use myself though, which has a pale-blue glow of its own, so it's hard to say for sure. However, I don't remember the mindblade pulsing before I put the enchant on.

Комментарий от 49114

If you buy all mats from AH it comes down to roughly 700g depending on your server. Or you can of course farm the primals which you can easily do in one day, and if your a enchanter you can disench all the gear you find for the essences, shards and, if you find some high-lvl stuff, even the crystals. IMO well worth it for maximizing damage either you buy it or farm it.

Комментарий от 80922

on my server this will cost about 800gold so considering 250gold is enough for a +40 enchant i wouldnt put it on just anything butofcourse if you finally get the staf/blade you always wanted i wouldnt hesitate.

Комментарий от 104608

Very much worth it for a Shadowpriest, +14 dmg makes quite a good amount and the bonus is that it's glow is awesome.

Ishtarr
70 Shadowpriest

Комментарий от Nemil

All these comments about sexy glows and mats being no issue should, in my opinion, be left for Thottbot threads. The glow is at best a personal preference (i personally think the +40 spelldamage looks way cooler), whereas the speed of farming mats or money varies as widely as stats among players.

When it comes to usefulness it all comes down to
a) how much money one is prepared to burn and/or how much one is prepared to farm for a (marginal) upgrade
b) which class/build is in question here.

For a shadow priest, full affliction warlock or full frost mage this is a decent upgrade, although considering the cost, it is worth putting only on a more-less endgame weapons, which are unlikely to be upgraded in any foreseeable future. Its usefulness naturally drops with the use of any mixed type spell damage, especially in long fights (like immolation DoT in case of a warlock).

Using an online warlock DPS calculator (http://ferox-horde.de/downloads/4/warlockdps.php) for a heavy affliction build (still uses immolate) with its default stats (see below) the resulting damage output increase over a 10-minute fight (compared to a regular +40 spelldamage enchant) is a whopping 243 (!!). Or in other words, in this particular scenario both enchants provided almost the same damage output (see below for settings). Naturally in a non-immolate scenario or trash fights the results would be much more in favour of soulfrost.

Settings in online calculator: duration and stats = default, case 1 = 1040 spelldamage, case 2 = 1000 spelldamage with 54 shadow damage, ticked Fel Armour, Drain when low, use CoA, 5 soul siphon effects, full affliction except improved CoA + improved SB, bane and devastation.

Комментарий от Zamfix

If you want max out your shadow/frost damage, how else are you going to do it? To achieve the maximum possible damage you need the maximum possible spell damage, and this is how you do that. Now it just comes down to who wants/needs to achieve maximum damage?

Комментарий от 94

I charge 20g for this enchant. What do you all charge? (their mats ofc)

Комментарий от 111622

not worth it, just do 40 spell. save yourself 1000g

Комментарий от Allakhazam

does this cause the weapon to glow or have any visual effect to the weapon?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Both sunfire and this enchant is kinda nerf .. because bonus diference from +40 spell damage isnt so high for so high diference on materials cost.

can by use for endgame weapon when u want max boost u damage output but still cost is kinda too high

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Don't know about a lock, but realistically this wouldnt be as useful for a mage as +40 spell damage. You consider you'll be frostbolt ice lancing it, but also fire blast and arcane explode. Might as well just do the +40 dmg.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

o..k.. Back to the subject. this is a cloth enchant?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

good thing mages cant dual weild. oh god shamans!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

wonder about the return rates for a shadow priest though. +40 spell affects damage and heal but the extra damage of pure shadow can be converted to health return too with ve and mana with vt....so I wonder which is better

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does anyone know wherethis is dropped or found or whatever?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I can do this on Skullcrusher, Thoas alliance side

Комментарий от Allakhazam

this is an enchant for warlocks (excluding "fire locks"), shadow priests, and frost mages. the whole "how much are the mats" shouldn't matter. if you want the best gear, you get this, end of story.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Dose this have a glow?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My first reaction to this enchant was that it is completely useless. But, after reaching 70, I've realized that the mats really arent that hard to get. There are always void crystals, shards, and essences in the AH at managable prices, and primal water and shadow are incredibly easy to farm. So, if someone on your server can do this enchant, go for it.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I think the important question here is...

does it glow?

:)

Комментарий от Thottbot

For everyone posting here and saying it's crap...you're just lazy.

All throughout time, when someone sees an item with 14 more spell damage than their's, and they dont lose stats/crit/hit etc, guess what? They want it. Why? because every little bit counts.

14 may not be much, but when you grab 2 more here, 3more there, 14 from this, etc etc, it adds up and suddenly you have 50 more spell damage than you had 3 weeks ago.

14 spell damage will shine through on a longer fight - 4-5 minutes of dpsing, not as big of a difference, but after 8-9 minutes of dpsing /cough magtheridon /cough it helps out in the grnad scheme of it all.

for you pvpers, no. dont waste your money. but for raiders - those ltitle upgrades add up.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Seen a few requests for picture of the glow, here it is:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2898/glow1hr7.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8298/glow2mh4.jpg

Diabolism -- Level 39 Warlock -- Bonechewer

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ive seen some level 29 twinks with these new enchants . Enchants clearly state ITEM 35 or higher, even if you look at a level 29 item its only ITEM 34. Any ideas on how these 29 twinks have managed it?

Комментарий от Thottbot

The real mats now are:
- 12X Void Crystal
- 10X Large Prismatic Shard
- 8X Greater Planar Essence
- 6X Primal Shadow
- 6X Primal Water

Комментарий от Thottbot

Here you go!

All the stats after the "=" bellow are average values.
2 fire and 2 frost spells with 40+ ench = 40+.
2 fire and 2 frost spells with 54+ shadow/frost ench = 27+.
1 fire and 3 frost spells with 40+ ench = 40+
1 fire and 3 frost spells with 54+ shadow/frost ench = 40,5+.
0 fire and 4 frost spells with 40+ ench = 40+.
0 fire and 4 frost spells with 54+ shadow/frost ench = 54+.

If you kill your enemies with 3 spells including Fire Blast, get 40+.
If more 4 spells or more, get soulfrost!

Anyways, i would prefer to do this with a warlock since they can get 54+ of the enchant every sec for 12 sec if they are DoTing 4 enemies with Improved Corruption, Curse of agony, and Soul Leach. 1944 more damage done in 12 sec total.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The reason why Soulfrost has 54 damage over Sunfire's 50 damage is because no one class can use both frost and shadow spells. Arcane and fire, however, can both be used by mages (leaning more twoards arcane/fire mages(PoM Pyro)). I'm sure there are other reasons for this, but this is the one good one I see.

Комментарий от Thottbot

got this enchant first time ever doing illhoof, very happy:D
not gonna ever use it tho, never see anyone on /2 asking for it:(
oh well good to have it anyways:D

Комментарий от Thottbot

amen

Комментарий от Thottbot

It looks nicer than +40 spell damage.

'nuff said.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I think a lot of the confusion about getting this enchant has to do with whether you are PVPing or PVEing.

For those that can afford it, Soulfrost sounds pretty nice. However, like all comments before me have stated, there are some of us on a strapped budget and blowing hundreds of gold on a single enchant is not very appealing, regardless of the tiny 14dmg upgrade you get. You would only really notice the dmg difference in an extended boss fight. In 2-3 min PVP battles, this damage is barely noticeable, even on dots or crits.

I'm a PVPing shadowpriest, and frankly +40dmg/heal sounds far better than Soulfrost for my own preferences. I *frequently* pop out of form and heal when it's needed (mostly to heal others about to die... sometimes it's better to keep your friends alive than being a Rambo in cloth), for both PVE and PVP. I like having the full utility of healing/damage; sitting on both +40dmg and +40healing at the same time is ideal for a priest.

However, if you're a stubborn face-melting spriest who never switches out of form, this is probably for you. This is also probably for people in large guilds and full g-banks, where gathering these mats wouldn't be so hard. Frankly, the mat cost for Soulfrost is bordering on the absurd. Like someone mentioned earlier, you essentially are paying 900+g for a +14dmg difference, and ONLY damage... whereas, for far cheaper, you can get a full +40dmg/heal.

So yeah, this is basically in response to the comment that said I am "#$%^&*ed" for being a spriest and choosing +40dmg/heal. There's my reasoning. I say it's "#$%^&*ed" to negate the awesome healing abilities of a priest simply cuz you wanna stay in shadowform.

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