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Guide to discovering potions/flasks/elixirs/transmutes.

For the casual gamer:
- Make sure your transmutation is always on cooldown. (You would probably log in at the same time everyday for a few hours, so keep a few reagents in your bag and do a transmute everytime its up.)

- Make potions and elixirs that you use although buying them from the auction house maybe cheaper than buying the reagents. ( You would probably have a cash flow set back so my advice is to have your second profession as herbalism to have a continuous supply of your own reagents.)

- Make yourself known to your guildmates and in game friends that you are an alchemist so that when party/raid members run low on potions/elixirs you can make some on the spot and charge them for it. (Try to keep stock of vials and herbs for potions/elixirs that move fast e.g netherbloom, terocone, mountain silversage, felweed, dreaming glory, etc...)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a potion master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a casual gamer trying to be a mobile alchemy auction house, potions are the most likely item people run out of that are essential to a raid/heroic.)

For the power gamer:
- Your transmutation timer has no excuse to be up. (If you're absent minded or loose track of time, set an alarm.)

- Make potions and elixirs that suffice your usage. Craft the item of your chosen mastery. Spread your crafts on a few items so you don't flood the auction house with one item. You should be able to be the most competetive seller since your procs yield you extra items. ( After a week or two you will be familiar with the items that sell and those that dont. Make more of the ones that do sell.)

- Make macros to advertise yourself as an alchemist on general chat when you cross teritories and trade chat when ur at a major city. (I find that listing some of your best potions/elixirs/flasks helps because not everyone is an alchemist and not everyone knows the available items in alchemy.)

- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a elixir master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a power gamer can spread his liabilities as there are a lot more elixirs compared to potions and such a gamer would be able to gather materials to create flasks {falls under elixir mastery}.)

Tips
- Always have reagents in your bag. If you run low on bag space priorotise for reagents on tansmutations.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know prices or download a mod that helps do it for you. I have mods but I still rely on my memory for all alchemy stuff because for alchemy its not an average of price over time. Its the price on that day, that week or that month. If your server is in end game you will be looking at completely different prices of all alchemy items compared to a server that has newly begun.

- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know your competitiors. If you can't beat their prices make a pact with them (e.g. you make certain items they make certain items, or if you're different masteries you should recomend your fellow customers to each other.)

- {More for power gamers} Be up to date on how far and how fast your server is progressing. This way you can be the first to be there with the items. (e.g. I sold more than 250 stacks of greater arcane protection potions alothough i knew how to make major arcane protection potions. At this point in time we're 3-4 months into the expansion and most players are still trying to save up cash or simply can't afford the major potions. On my server now, most guilds dont need them for the curator fight in karazhan but before they were experienced in taking him down they we're willing to pay my outrageous prices to have an edge on the encounters.)

Комментарий от Chillincold

Dirty tricks:
Knowing the backdoors in every game and business encounter definately helps. Since this is the low down section of my thread, and undenyably unscrupulous. I will only let you in on one of the not so sinster of my plots. (For my own conscience sake I don't want to corrupt the world.)

- {For herbalists} If you know of an item that sells well but its reagents are never on the auction house, create an alternate character and park him at an auction house. Advertise items that require this reagent and sell it for double or triple the price on your alternate character so that the buyer doesn't know that its you. (e.g. Not many people know about greater arcane elixir, and its a great elixir for casters altough its a lower level elixir compared to post TBC items. I sell reagents such as dreamfoil and mountain silversage at triple the normal price on my alternate character. My customers usually ask me if they are usually that expensive, I either tell them "Yeah thats the normal price nowadays." or "Thats cheap!!")

From past experience I have to state this for my peace of mind. Please dont send me a mail or ask me for more details on the "Dirty tricks" section. Thank you for reading my post, and if you slept half way... DUDE/DUDET you missed out, what were you thinking trying to sleep in one of my lectures!

Комментарий от Samboda

Possible primal transmutes are :

Air ==> Fire ==> Earth ==> Water ==> Air

Fire <=> Mana

Earth <=> Life

Water <=> Shadow

Комментарий от Toldry

....................TRANSMUTES....................
...............................................................
.....Mana <->Fire <-Air...............................
.....................|.......^.................................
....................v........|.................................
.....Life <-> Earth -> Water <-> Shadow......
...............................................................

Комментарий от Ludwick

Requirements to make a discovery

You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.

As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.

NOT requirements to make a discovery

You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)

List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)

Flasks

Potions

Super Rejuvenation Potion

Transmutes

Cauldrons - To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection

Комментарий от Strit112

Well I've got all Transmute Discoveries but 1, and I've only gotten them by making transmutes. I learned Rejunevation Potion while making potions though. So I'm pretty sure you need to do related stuff.

Комментарий от 10128

It seems that crafting Diamonds does not give a chance of making a discovery of another transmutation recipe. I have crafted Diamonds for about a year with my Alchemist and never procced a single discovery. I then tried Earth to Water and got 3 discoveries in a week.

Of course only transmuting enables you to discover transmutation recipes.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I would like to add that i have discovered a transmutation of Primal of Earth to Primal of Life while making a Primal of Might. This is turned out rather profitable considering i buy a primal of earth for 3g and sell a primal of life for up to 15g. It's like having another daily quest in the money making :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Learned this while doing a Primal Might transmute for a guildie. Was only the second Might transmute I'd ever done.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

what do you mean you learnt it? you it like just said you have elarnt transmute life to earth?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Would really like some information as to if this is or will be available and where to get it.

Комментарий от Thottbot

looks like a world drop (from allakhazam.com). Best luck in the auction house =(

Комментарий от Thottbot

Anybody know if the drops is possible? If yes where and by who does it drop or if it is a vendor. I need that recipe to transmute life to earth since I am an alchemist.

Комментарий от Thottbot

So I was transmuting a Primal Might and once completed I learned a new transmute, and I guess its a low % random 'Discovery' that you obtain when transmuting a Might.

Still.. if you really need Earth's.. get a miner friend.. its alot more effective.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yeah, but Primal Life is easier to obtain at lower lvls than Earth is. Makes it kinda nice.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I just discovered this while transmuting earth to water.... whooop dee frickin doo... more disapointed than anything else

Комментарий от Thottbot

Discovered trasmuting Earthstone Diamond

Комментарий от Thottbot

What a crap discovery... a guild's warriors are usually overflowing with primal earths.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The only way to learn this transmute is to discover it. There is no recipe for this one.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i discovered this today while transmuting primal might. how seriously lame is this discovery..... super lame.

earths sell for like 5-10g, life sells for 15-20g

Комментарий от Thottbot

the best thing about this transmute is if you are making primal might and need primal earth or to transmute earth to something else you need.

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