Edit: if there is a rating on these, it just means we have to buy cheap 1Hs and an expensive 2H rather than the other way around. We still have to spend a few thousand more points than other classes for a full S4 setup.

Versus a S3 1H

+1 Stamina
+1 Hit
+1 Crit
+2 Resilience
+8 AP
-7 Armor Pen

Interesting that the Hunter axe does not have exactly the same stats as the normal 1H. The extra resilience makes me think these might be the "wrong" stats as resilience for most items has not increased since season 2.

Комментарий от Yipiyuk

Currently on the PTR these axes cost 650 points each and requires a personal and team rating of 2050.

http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/may/s4/hunter-hatchet.jpg
http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/may/s4/hunter-waraxe.jpg

Комментарий от 143219

If you add up the stats on this axe and the off hand S4, aren't they less than what you get for the 2H S3 Waraxe?

Комментарий от madmartigen

Don't forget +5 agility (duel +20 agi enchants vs 35 agi)

Still not worth getting imo. Unless they are planning on nerfing the S3 Waraxe, which knowing Blizzard is a possiblity

Комментарий от Zanny

Most drain team hunters run double melee weps for double 30 int enchants, the longevity of another 450 mana can be huge in a long 2 v 2 match.

Комментарий от 102293

Knowing Blizzard, it's highly unlikely that they will drop the Personal Rating requirement that we're seeing in the PTR servers. So these axes will be unavailable to those that are not extremely skilled at Arena.

While I understand that Blizzard is trying to get people to completely stop playing Arenas unless they're elite PVPers, this move does effectively put Hunters back in the role of being screwed over again -- the only class that does not pick up a relatively cheap "off-hand" item for no PR requirement. Relatively cheap, yes. No PR required, no. According to the Blue post on the PVP forum, the offhand and gloves were supposed to be available with no PR requirement. I guess Hunters are back to being left out from that sort of thing again.

Not a big deal since the net stat value is completely unimpressive compared to the Season 3 axe. Overall, it's a downgrade from almost any angle you look at it from. Definitely not worth it. Was thinking about picking them up for raiding -- at least they'd be useful as a double MP5 item -- but not worth bothering getting my rating up for them. Junk.

Комментарий от AMIB

the only class that does not pick up a relatively cheap "off-hand" item for no PR requirement.

Warriors, elemental shamans, and paladins would like to have a word with you.

Комментарий от Dobmiestre

On the other hand Lazorwolfe, the hunter S4 dual-wield set-up is much more of a 'stat-stick' in relative terms to the player, than a paladin's libram, a druid's idol, a shaman's totem or a warrior/rogue's thrown weapon is to the respective classes.

Blizzard are addressing the issue where any hunter who played arenas for 4-5 weeks during Season 3 in a very low-rating team could pick up a weapon on a par with Tier 4/5 loot, with very limited effort at all.

Комментарий от AMIB

Compared to a S4 one-hander...

Same DPS, top- and bottom-end, same amount of hit
-2 critical strike rating
+2 resilience
+4 attack power
-7 armor ignore

Compared to the S4 one-handers, this is a comparable item at a much lower cost, tuned very slightly to match somewhat different tastes in stats compared to melee classes.

The standard one-handers are still available to hunters who want them, just at a higher cost.

Комментарий от 165325

Eh, havent you considered in this "stats decrease" that you get 5 more agi also from the enchants you can put on? on 2h, you can get 35 agi, with dual wield you can get 40.

Комментарий от Ilovemuffins

I was hoping to get S3 weapons before they announced the date for Season 4. Even though S3 axe probably has better stats, it is a better idea to get Season 4 axes because of the +30 intellect you can get on each one. What good is attack power if you cant use your abilities?

Season 3 One Hand

2 of these will grant you...

60 Stam
16 Hit Rating
42 Crit
24 Resiliance
68 Attack Power
98 Armor Ignorance

2 Season 4 Hunter Axes

62 Stam
18 Hit Rating
40 Crit
28 Resiliance
84 Attack Power
82 Armor Ignorance

Season 4 One hand
2 of these will get you.

62 Stam
18 Hit Rating
44 Crit
24 Resiliance
76 Attack Power
98 Armor Ignorance

Now, its pretty obvious that Blizzard did not give us a downgraded version of Season 4, but rather a pair that is specifically designed for hunters needs', based on what they think we need. if you prefer the Season 4 pair, be prepared to fight becuase the one hand is going to cost you 2050 rating. I wouldn't be surprised to see hunters mix these 2 sets. So i guess ill add these up too

Hunter Main Hand + Regular Off Hand

62 Stam
18 Hit Rating
42 Crit
26 Resiliance
80 Attack Power
91 Armor Ignorance

Looks like a happy medium to me.

Happy Hunting!

Комментарий от r3fund

Season 4 is LIVE on US servers.

This Hunter Main Hand DOES require a 2050 team and personal rating.

Costs 650 Arena Points.

Комментарий от Thottbot

&*!@ing hunters are favoured again..ffs blizz

Комментарий от Thottbot

This axe is to hunters exactly what is a throwing weapon to warriors. Just a few extra stats!

Комментарий от Thottbot

death knights?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Don't start discussions about whether it's fair or not 'cuz what the tab doesn't say is requires a personal rating of 2050.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Shouldn't shamans be able to get this one 2? How do you think ppl would feel if only rogues could use swords, fists and maces?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well for MM and BM hunters this isn't very useful because if you want pure range dps your better off going with the vengeful 2h axe. Even if you dual wield this another brutal gladiator 1h weapon, your range dps bonus will be the same as that of the Crystalforged waraxe's, which is not spectacular. However, this would work great for a survival hunter because he would be able to get more melee dps with this and another s4 1h weapon than just about any combination you can think of. Personally, I think blizz made this weapon to try to get more hunters to switch to survival, considering there are hardly any of them.

Комментарий от Thottbot

a vast number of hunters already used 2x1h glad weapons because of +30 int enchant that is twice applied by the dual wield (boosted by talents+AotViper)
that why it was added like this, but in certain situations venge 2h axe is still very good

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