for most if not all crafting professions (smithing engineering and leatherworking at least) when you reach a certain character level and skill in the profession your required to make a choice..
for engineerig its to become goblin or gnomish engineer

in short goblins like things that go boom an gnomes like helpful gadgets like jet boots or the gnmish death ray(wipes otu significant portion of targets damage )
to beomce either one you ahve to craft a set of itensm (to becoem gnomish i ahd to make advanced target dummies, mithril tubes and an accurate scope.

Комментарий от Thottbot

It looks like a kobold mining hat; with a candle on it ^^

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Is learned in tanaris indeed

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This+Mining pick = Mining outfit for RPing/Costume parties

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would it be clever to use this with goblin sapper charge? use this and explode and do very little damage to yourself? eh eh? nudge nudge, wink wink?

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I have a 29 twink gnome rogue who's 240 in engineering, and I can't seem to find the pattern from anyone in Tanaris. Is this because I can't spec goblin or gnomish at 29?

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where can i be goblin engineer?

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Look up the character Hikat, level 29 gnome rogue. Why is he able to wear this then, if it's BoP?

Комментарий от Thottbot

It's my understanding that you cannot get the quest to choose btwn goblin and gnomish engineering until you get artisan training (raising your skill cap to 300) at level 30.

If you are below the required level you cannot get the quest. As gnomes we can make artisan level items (226-240) because of our +15 racial bonus but we do not have artisan training which isn't available until level 30.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Good thing to have agisnty fire mages.

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What's being overlooked here is that it's a component in the Goblin Rocket Helmet Гоблинский реактивный шлем and that 30sec stun is something I am so looking forward to getting. That's enough time to pick yourself up again, mount up, laugh at the still-stunned would-be ganker and ride away laughing even more. That makes it priceless indeed.

So tired of being ganked from behind while questing by someone 10 levels above me.

Edited, Feb 4th 2008 6:02am by maidstragedy

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You no take candle!

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This hat is great for MC.

You can never have too much fire resist!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This thing sucks SO badly - 15FR is NOTHING
People only need FR vs Baron Geddon, the Lava Packs after, Ragnaros and Vael
And MT for Firemaw

Not even MT need full FR for tanking anywhere.

I rather use my Wrath gear then Dark Iron as long as I got over 250FR

So please Casters, dont waste any stats/+dmg/manareg for sucky +15FR...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I just read on the WoWwiki page that this is good for Warlocks so that they can hellfire and take less (possibly no) damage from casting it. Now tell me that a 'lock without end-game gear wouldn't like to use it for that reason.

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this is goblin engineering?

Комментарий от QuickBASIC

There's a lot of confusion about this currently. There are basically four types of items that can be made by engineers:

BoE items that can be used by any engineer and traded.
BoP items that can be crafted by a specific specialization, but used by any engineer
Items that require a specific specialization to use.
BoP items that can be crafted by an engineer, but can be used even after engineering is dropped

Gnomish Engineering allows you to craft these items:

Item	Bind on Pickup	Requires Engineering to Use	Requires Gnomish to Use
Гномьи очки	Yes	Yes	No
Пояс гномов, хранящий от вреда	No	Yes	No
Гномская шапка контроля над разумом	No	Yes	No
Гномьи реактивные сапоги	No	Yes	No
Сверхбезопасный транспортер: Прибамбасск	No*	Yes	Yes
Увеличитель мира	No	Yes	Yes
Боевой цыпленок гномов	Yes	Yes	No
Смертоносный луч гномов	Yes	No	No
Сетемет гномов	No	Yes	No
Уменьшающий луч гномов	No	Yes	No
Чертеж: инкрустированный мифриловый цилиндр	N/A	N/A	N/A
Крошка Дымок	Yes	Yes	No

* This is Bind on Use (not equip).

If your intent is to switch to Goblin after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft Гномьи очки, Боевой цыпленок гномов, Смертоносный луч гномов, and Крошка Дымок (these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level gnomish engineering again.

Сверхбезопасный транспортер: Прибамбасск and Увеличитель мира cannot be used by a non-gnomish engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.

NOTE: Смертоносный луч гномов doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.

Goblin Engineering allows you to craft these items:

Item	Bind on Pickup	Requires Engineering to Use	Requires Goblin to Use
Гоблинские реактивные сапоги	No	No	No
Рецепт: гоблинское ракетное топливо	No	N/A	N/A
Гоблинская мортира	No	Yes	No
Шахтерская гоблинская каска	Yes	Yes	No
Шлем гоблинской конструкции	No	Yes	No
Великан	No	Yes	No
Гоблинский бомбомет	Yes	Yes	No
Гоблинский реактивный шлем	No	Yes	No
Гоблинский саперный заряд	No	Yes	No
Гоблинское драконье ружье	Yes	No	No
Гоблинская мортира	No	Yes	No
Крошечная ходячая бомба	Yes	No	No
Пространственный проходчик - Круговзор	No*	Yes	Yes

* This is Bind on Use (not equip).

If your intent is to switch to Gnomish after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft Шахтерская гоблинская каска, Гоблинский бомбомет, Гоблинское драконье ружье, and Крошечная ходячая бомба (these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level Goblin Engineering again.

NOTE: I recommend you go Gnomish first because most items crafted by Goblin are comsumable, whereas Gnomish is toys and trinkets that can be used after you switch. If you do Goblin first, you'll not be able to craft some of the most powerful explosives in the game for yourself and need to buy them reguarily if you want to use them.

Пространственный проходчик - Круговзор cannot be used by a non-goblin engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.

NOTE: Гоблинское драконье ружье doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.

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