I don't know what u do with your time, but if i'm fighting anything i'm always changing seals and judging. Anything that reduces mana cost for me is a total life saver. The cleanse libram is also one i'd love to get my hands on.

It's really getting old how many pallies are condeming these books. Lots are saying how a bow with +10 stam or something would be better. Take a look at that for jsut a sec. +10 stam is 100 more hit points. if u have ever taken a hit in end game, first of all u shouldn't be because u are back up healing :P second, that 100 hp is probably not saving u from the 2k dmg u jsut took. on the other hand, since u are healing, u are probably dispelling. even if u cast dispell only 50 times 1250 mana saved. and 50 times is easily reached in a boss fight. Now back to this libram for a sec. 20 less mana for each seal. again, i cast seals at least 30 times in even a small boss fight. that's another 600 mana saved.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm still waiting for a libram that boosts retribution aura

Комментарий от Thottbot

Are you considering noob pallys one without nearly full tier two because without that gear you dont have the mana to keep judging.

Комментарий от Thottbot

If you don't like it, keep placeholder Egan's Blaster, simple. If you never use your seals, ever... you are a noob, plain and simple. Lrn2ply noob, use the abilities your class has and maybe this libram might be worth a whole 1 copper more then the crummy blaster you have equipped.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You don't have to do these quests yourself to get access to the boss. Just find someone who has finished them and they can summon all the bosses as many times as they want.

We've been running Pallies through DM east and druids through LBRS all day...for a price.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well maybe I'm gullable but I heard and belived;,that palas are going to be able to use theese new thingies like ranged weapons, why can't we pull ffs, only spell we have that affects everything is holy shock, and ONLY if we're holy, and it has a "massive" 20 yd range... lol, why couldn't they make it 30 like every other class, I'm not asking for much, only a good pull spell or a ranged damage item, it doesnt have to do a lot of damage... ffs make it do 1-2 damage, but GIVE US SOMETHING!

Комментарий от Thottbot

ok stop saying that these librams suck. This seal thing is good even though we might have liked libram of eagle or stuff like that.

Anywayyyyy...I heard this also drops off the summonable guy in Beast's room. So does this drop off ALL summonable guys or what?

Комментарий от Thottbot

now that we are talking about the usefullness of seals and the mana reduction on this relic, it should be mentioned that a pala with the right gear and knowledge of how to dps with a paladin (be it pvp or pve) can actually do alot of damage... ive seen a pala with sulf hammer (the big legendary 2h mace) do as much damage on a ZG raid as the rogue with viskag on the same raid!
So the mana reduction on this relic would increase said paladins dps output quite abit since less used mana on seals would make it possible to make more seals (command f.ex.) per mana bar.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Unless your one of those anal people who hopes to fight long epic battles (Which happens almost not so often enough} then this is for you. As for Pve? Well I doubt any 40 man raid bosses is gonna sit their and attack single targets the whole time. Might aswell not take damage and waste mana healing.

Better then Egan if its on your way? I guess

Комментарий от Thottbot

I agree that this libram would be a nice mana saver but theres no way Im goin through the armor quest chain to try and get it...its not 100% drop rate the early numbers put it around 14%. I dont even know why Blizz put these things in the game. Before they did you heard some complaints about not having anything in the ranged slot but for the most part paladins didnt care. Now we got these librams but good or bad theyre nothing like what we were expecting and theres only one (considered by most to be the most useless) that is practical to go after. Blizz would have been better off just leaving things the way they were.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This is IMO the best Relict of the three so far for PvP Pallys that use a lot of Seals, like me.
Especially because such a Pally has usually less Mana than a Healadin so 20Mana each Seal is not too few.

According to allkazam this also drops from the Mage add of the endboss in Diremaul North, haven't got any real confirmation on that though.

There's a pretty ridiculous translation mistake in the german version on this, it says "Shadowbolt" instead of "Seals", I hope they fix that soon.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Like alot of people said, this drops off a summoned boss in DM east(Isalien) near the last part of the tier 0.5 questline. Also, the quest is given at random and you'll get 2 shots at a 1/4 chance of getting that particular boss. If you are unlucky you'll have to complete the entire questline (hand in a flask of supreme power and beat Valthalak)in order to obtain an item capable of summoning any of the 4 bosses. On the other hand, if you have a friend who's already finished the quest line, you can easily farm Isalien for the libram and skip all the tier 0.5 quests (if the libram is all you want of course).

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok yes pally�s can heal as much as druids and priests in MC but that�s over time. The thing is pally�s cant handle the burst damage of healing a MT in MC/BWL/AQ unless you use your holy light which if u do you wont last 45 sec with your mana pool. Holy light just uses too much mana. The only way pally's can last entire fights healing in these places is by spamming flash of light which stabilizes the groups health. Let me end with this, u take all the priests/druids out of a raid and replace them with pally�s = Dead raid. You replace all the pally's with priests/druids = Raid continues.

Комментарий от Thottbot

BTW im a pally in full tier one, tier two and some badass +healing, mana regen gear, i have played around with many variations and spec's i have been a pally for so long i have just got to the point where i have accepted the fact that Blizz screwed us over. Were not healers we don�t have the regen to heal for an extended period of time we are gimped. Id like to see someone tell me that they have a pally that can spam Holy light and last an entire BWL/AQ fight. The way our talent trees are setup is that we spec for healing we cant DPS. We spec for DPS we can�t heal. You spec for tanking u can�t cause enough holy damage to hold aggro against any good DPS player that knows what their doing and im not talking about some pug 5 man. O ya and no taunt. Thx blizz for the shaft.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I think it's total bull!@#$ that this thing only drops from a summoned boss in DiM. How easy is it to summon that boss, and is it repeatable?

Комментарий от Thottbot

We all complained that pallies needed something , just anything. Well here it is and its very nice. Or would u rather have nothing again........yeah thats what i thought -20 mana to seals is very nice especially for pvp.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i dont know how the comments quickly turned into an all-out @#$%^ fest of why pally librams are this and that, or how other ppl wasted even more time in telling these complainers how much they complain, but anyways

ive seen from a post above that this can also drop from Cho'rush in DMnorth, along with the summoned boss from the tier .5 gear quests. Can anyone confirm that this can drop from Cho'Rush? cuz i am in a decent guild and have no need for .5 tier gear (as i do MC on a regular basis) and dont want to waste the 60-200g it will cost to get to that point in the chain.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You dont have to do the quest yourselves, just find someone that's on the quest and go with him to DiM. This thing drops even if you're not on the quest, so you dont have to spend time and money on upgrading the armour you vendored two months ago :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Does this stack with Benediction, and if so, does it apply before or after it?

Would be nice for the fixed amount to apply last (unlike sanctuary :[ )

Комментарий от Thottbot

If you want to pull without any talents use Smolderweb's Eye.
2 min cooldown, 30 yard range.

It doesn't apply damage instantly, so don't use it to tag mobs 1st, but is a nice ranged weapon, with infinite charges and a short enough cooldown for pulling.

I use it myself (got it on my 1st run -lucky).
It's also great for stopping rogues from stealthing ;)

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=8672

Комментарий от Thottbot

Obviously, got this from the summonable boss for T 0.5 quest at the end of DiM East, although to be honest I wasn't expecting it (I went in there to get my Energized Chestplate, which sadly didn't drop), so it was a pleasant suprise.

Having already had the Libram of Divinity drop for me a few days ago in Scholo, I wasn't quite sure how I was going to use this to begin with, as I'd rather have the + FoL to be honest when I'm instance running in case I need to pull back from combat and back-up heal (I'm holy specced and +heal/mp5 geared anyhow).

In the end I decided to use this for when I'm grinding,as it means I can happily pop seals and judge (JoR) for burst damage without having to worry too much about running out of mana rapidly, making for some pretty efficent gold grinding sessions which are low on mana pot/drink expenses.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm thinking part of the reason these only drop during the dungeon 2 upgrade chain is to get some better-geared people to help out people trying to get their upgrades.

You don't have to be on the quest to help others out...

Комментарий от Thottbot

i think every one with relic's has been scrowed over we can not pick up one till lvl 50ish but pepole with range wepoans get to start with a ranged wepoan i think blizz should make a vendor with relic's and we should beable to get them at the start of the game aswell o and druid relic in BRD is a lot easyer to get then the pally since the pally one drop's off the 2nd last boss and i done alot of BRD and not one group made it that far

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I like his Shield anyway, so get that and pick up the Relic as a bonus.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

WL Item!
In german it says:
Passive: Reduces the mana cost of your Shadowbolt spell by 20.
:D

btw. it dropped yesterday in DM East. Disenchant :)

Edited, Tue Apr 4 06:27:28 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does this stack with benediction?
If so, is the -20 applied before, or after, the -5%.

Anyone tested this?
(be nice if it affected judgements too :p)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does this stack with benediction?
If so, is the -20 applied before, or after, the -5%.

Anyone tested this?
(be nice if it affected judgements too :p)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It drops off of Cho'Rush the Observer in DM.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

EDIT: Изалиен /EDIT

Isalien dropt this for me. She is one of the Quest Mobs you have to kill for the T 0.5 Setitems.
In DM East btw.

Taleb, Paladin on EU Alexstrasza

Edited, Tue Apr 4 11:08:23 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Woah! This is awsome. This thing is absolutly much better then the +armor on devotion from Magmus.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does this stack with benediction?
If so, is the -20 applied before, or after, the -5%.

Anyone tested this?
(be nice if it affected judgements too :p)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So this is what wing?
I really need that shiit

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Unconfirmed rumor, sounds like it may drop in Scholo....anyone know?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The Wow Forums from Blizzard have people confirming its From Cho'Rush th Observer in DM which will be intersting because many Groups do not kill him in DM north tribute runs.

They just have some one Stealh / Pet pull the king only or just have a pally or druid play with him while everyone burst dps's the king and the game resets him to ally once king dies first.

So will have to explain to everyone why you will want him dead in Pick up groups hehe.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Let me clarify this for people:

This is a drop off of the summonable boss in DM East that can only be summoned by characters who have either completed the tier .5 chain or have gotten this boss as their random boss during the last leg of the tier .5 chain. She is summoned in the room of the final boss of DM East. She is by far the easiest of the tier .5 bosses (of which there are four minibosses and the final boss Valthalak), and so long as you kick her out of her heals and take down her companion as soon as it spawns you should be fine.

I have personally escorted about six paladins down to get their libram since finishing my tier .5 set. They were all, needless to say, quite happy. ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does this stack with benediction?
If so, is the -20 applied before, or after, the -5%.

Anyone tested this?
(be nice if it affected judgements too :p)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Any book graphics that we can see when equipped? It would be wicked to have a book by the side of the pally, ala WC3.

I certainly hope they introduce some form of graphics.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Does this stack with benediction?
If so, is the -20 applied before, or after, the -5%.

Anyone tested this?
(be nice if it affected judgements too :p)

Комментарий от Kactus04

As per the blue post about content phases, this will only be introduced in Phase 5 as part of the loot revamp.

Комментарий от Rothia

The Dungeon Set 2 also called Tier 0.5 is aquired through a fairly lengthy, somewhat difficult and expensive quest chain through which you upgrade Dungeon Set 1 pieces.
After completing Возвращение к Бодли which is one part of the chain, you will recieve Жаровня Вызова: инструкция пользователя and Жаровня Вызова.
The manual describes where the brazier can be used to summon a variety of bonus bosses with rare loot in the following dungeons:

BRAZIER OF INVOCATION: USER'S MANUAL - Where to find Haunted Loci

Забытый Город East | Изалиен
"The open-aired chamber where Алззин Перевертень resides is one of these haunted loci."
Жаровня Призыва

Lower Пик Черной горы | Мор Серое Копыто
"Should you seek to raise the echo of Mor Grayhoof's spirit, Воевода Вун's chamber is a haunted location."
Жаровня Призыва

Live Стратхольм | Наследие Сотоса и Джариена appears after defeating Сотос and Джариен
"Thus it is that another of these haunted loci is The Crimson Throne (Балназзар's room) inside The Scarlet Bastion at Stratholme."
Жаровня Призыва

Некроситет | Кормок
"This makes Рас Ледяной Шепот's chamber one of the haunted locations where the brazier can be successfully utilized."
Жаровня Призыва

Upper Пик Черной горы | Лорд Вальтхалак
"As you must know, this makes Lord Valthalak's abode, what is now Чудовище's chamber in Blackrock Spire, the last of the haunted locations."
Жаровня Призыва

Комментарий от Tsaza

Seems to be not working with Печать крови or Печать крови currently in TBC Classic.

Edit: fixed 6.6.2022

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